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rficalora
Rob Ficalora
Willis, TX
(2686 posts)

Registered:
10/24/2007 02:46PM

Main British Car:
'76 MGB w/CB front, Sebring rear, early metal dash Ford 302

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Now I've done it
Posted by: rficalora
Date: April 13, 2012 09:47PM

16yr old son just got his license. He's saved money since birth for a car. Ad said V6. Car was a V8 (high mileage 06 mustang). Bought it. Stick shift. My thought is can't text & shift. Teaching son to drive manual - doing ok till panic stop. wHen went to brake & gas instead of brake & clutch. Harder he pressed on the brake, faster we lunged. Any tips to break that reaction?


MGBV8
Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN
(3978 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 11:32PM

Main British Car:
1979 MGB, Buick 215

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Re: Now I've done it
Posted by: MGBV8
Date: April 14, 2012 12:25PM

More practice stops in an empty church parking lot. Have him drive around & you randomly yell STOP.

I taught my son to ride a dirt bike way before driving age, so it was an easier transition to a manual trans. car.


ex-tyke
Graham Creswick
Chatham, Ontario, Canada
(1116 posts)

Registered:
10/25/2007 11:17AM

Main British Car:
1976 MGB Ford 302

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Re: Now I've done it
Posted by: ex-tyke
Date: April 14, 2012 05:39PM

Glue his left foot to the clutch pedal.


roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
(3058 posts)

Registered:
04/24/2009 11:02AM

Main British Car:
74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: Now I've done it
Posted by: roverman
Date: April 14, 2012 06:08PM

Rob, How about securely up on blocks, in the rear ? Being out or harms way, he could practice without risk. Monitoring the speedo or tach to build finnesse and coordination. Good Luck, roverman.


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(5949 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: Now I've done it
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: April 15, 2012 11:00AM

I like Graham's idea. Maybe a piece of plywood between the clutch and brake.

Jim


Mudhen
Patrick Munhall
Eliot, ME
(7 posts)

Registered:
04/11/2012 02:43PM

Main British Car:
Mini, multiple

Re: Now I've done it
Posted by: Mudhen
Date: April 15, 2012 03:49PM

I'm thinking about some kind of spark plug wired to a switch you control...he puts the plug in his pocket...

Details are fuzzy but you get the idea.

:-)


Spitfire 350
Phil McConnell
Perrysburg, OH (Toledo area)
(197 posts)

Registered:
01/11/2010 09:19PM

Main British Car:
74 Spitfire 350Chevy

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Re: Now I've done it
Posted by: Spitfire 350
Date: April 15, 2012 06:06PM

Rob,
I taught both of my daughters to drive stick without any damage to us, the car, or
innocent bystanders. The number one rule I gave them was that the left foot works only the clutch, and I had them push in the clutch whenever they used the brakes. Oh yeah, they learned in a ’71 Bug, the breaks are much more powerful than the engine. I think one your son gets used to the pedal position he will do fine.


rficalora
Rob Ficalora
Willis, TX
(2686 posts)

Registered:
10/24/2007 02:46PM

Main British Car:
'76 MGB w/CB front, Sebring rear, early metal dash Ford 302

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Re: Now I've done it
Posted by: rficalora
Date: April 15, 2012 08:40PM

Thanks guys - he's doing a lot better. We practiced in an empty parking lot with the idea Graham gave. And, since then, I've done the same on the street when he wasn't expecting it (& no cars were behind us) & he seems to have it down. Still a little trouble getting going from a stop but with another week or so of practice he should be fine.


MGBV8
Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN
(3978 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 11:32PM

Main British Car:
1979 MGB, Buick 215

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Re: Now I've done it
Posted by: MGBV8
Date: April 15, 2012 09:16PM

You actually glued his foot to the clutch pedal?! :)


rficalora
Rob Ficalora
Willis, TX
(2686 posts)

Registered:
10/24/2007 02:46PM

Main British Car:
'76 MGB w/CB front, Sebring rear, early metal dash Ford 302

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Re: Now I've done it
Posted by: rficalora
Date: April 15, 2012 09:35PM

YIKES - no! I used your suggestion Carl, not Graham's!


Spitfire 350
Phil McConnell
Perrysburg, OH (Toledo area)
(197 posts)

Registered:
01/11/2010 09:19PM

Main British Car:
74 Spitfire 350Chevy

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Re: Now I've done it
Posted by: Spitfire 350
Date: April 16, 2012 11:47AM

Rob,
I don't know what you told him about how to let the clutch out, but I have had good results with the following...
Let the clutch out slowly, till you feel it start to grab just slightly, hold it there for a second and then let it the rest of the way out super slowly while you give it a tiny bit of gas. My oldest daughter was having trouble taking off from a stop because when she felt the clutch start to grab, she would let completely off the clutch pedal. Might be worth a try…


rficalora
Rob Ficalora
Willis, TX
(2686 posts)

Registered:
10/24/2007 02:46PM

Main British Car:
'76 MGB w/CB front, Sebring rear, early metal dash Ford 302

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Re: Now I've done it
Posted by: rficalora
Date: April 16, 2012 12:23PM

That's exactly his problem. He knows what he's supposed to do but still lets the clutch out too fast & doesn't give it enough gas... recovers when he hears it start dieseling. I've showed him how to tell where the clutch starts to engage & he's practiced it & knows what he should do -- just doesn't have the muscle memory yet. I've said "slower clutch, more gas" so many times we resorted to plucking his ear each time he did it -- that seemed to help him remember ;).


Dan B
Dan Blackwood
South Charleston, WV
(973 posts)

Registered:
11/06/2007 01:55PM

Main British Car:
1966 TR4A, 1980 TR7 Multiport EFI MegaSquirt on the TR4A. Lexus V8 pl

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Re: Now I've done it
Posted by: Dan B
Date: April 16, 2012 01:29PM

To get the feel for the clutch, have him keep his heel on the floor. That means he will need to have the ball of his foot or toes on the pedal.


HealeyRick
Rick Neville

(474 posts)

Registered:
12/19/2007 05:01PM

Main British Car:
1963 Austin-Healey 3000 Ford 5.0L

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Re: Now I've done it
Posted by: HealeyRick
Date: April 16, 2012 03:54PM

"You actually glued his foot to the clutch pedal?! :)"

Nail gun would work better!


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(5949 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: Now I've done it
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: April 16, 2012 04:32PM

Tapcons. You can back those out later.

Jim


lawnvett
PJ Lenihan
Winston-Salem, NC
(473 posts)

Registered:
04/29/2009 11:37AM

Main British Car:
74 MGB-GT 3.4 V-6 crate, 5 spd

Re: Now I've done it
Posted by: lawnvett
Date: April 19, 2012 10:49AM

I recently helped my 16 year old learn in a stock MGB. X's 2 on aWide open parking lot, one with a slope is even better. Before we started I laid down the rules: 3 half hour lessens on 3 different days, then when he had all the slow driving down to a habit, and only then would we get out of 2nd gear on a low traffic road. I also insisted on 7:00am Sunday lessons, just to be sure he was willing to do as I said.


rficalora
Rob Ficalora
Willis, TX
(2686 posts)

Registered:
10/24/2007 02:46PM

Main British Car:
'76 MGB w/CB front, Sebring rear, early metal dash Ford 302

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Re: Now I've done it
Posted by: rficalora
Date: April 19, 2012 04:25PM

Have done a bunch of parking lot practice over past week or two. He's getting better. Now has the hang of getting going in 1st enough we've progressed onto roads. He's a little slower to start moving than he needs to be - occasional honk from the car behind him but not often & we've done 3 trips of 6-10 miles round trip with plenty of stop signs & traffic lights and no stall outs so he's definitely improving. Have done a few more "panic" stops at random times & he's not made that mistake again either.

But, turns out he'll get at least 3 more weeks practice before he gets to drive it on his own -- our deal is all A's & B's and he got a C in Chemestry (but didn't choose to go to tutoring like he was supposed to)... so he has to get that back to a B for at least 3 wks before he's alowed to drive his car on his own.


NCtim
Tim Shumbera
Western North Carolina
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01/19/2012 04:35PM

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Re: Now I've done it
Posted by: NCtim
Date: April 20, 2012 04:18PM

I had my daughter learn the clutch with no accelerator pedal involved. Granted, it was a powerful engine but she mastered the take-away with the engine idling. She's a great driver and loves her hot rods.

NCtim


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