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mowog1
Rick Ingram
Central Illinois
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10/17/2007 09:36PM

Main British Car:
1974.5 MGB/GT 3.9l Rover

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Re: BritishV8 Trivia Contest
Posted by: mowog1
Date: January 10, 2009 01:25PM

I know, too.....and I have a 1/43 scale model of a "stable-mate" in my office...(I'll post a picture later).

There are (were) two of them (for sale) at the Imperial Palace Car collection in Las Vegas.



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Curtis Jacobson
Portland Oregon
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10/12/2007 02:16AM

Main British Car:
71 MGBGT, Buick 215

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Re: BritishV8 Trivia Contest
Posted by: Moderator
Date: January 10, 2009 01:25PM

Someone sent me a great link... it's sorta related to this thread. See how many American V8's you can identify in this quiz: [www.americantorque.com]


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Curtis Jacobson
Portland Oregon
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10/12/2007 02:16AM

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71 MGBGT, Buick 215

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Re: BritishV8 Trivia Contest
Posted by: Moderator
Date: January 10, 2009 01:27PM

Come on Rick... please answer the trivia question, and we'll move on to a question of your choosing!


mowog1
Rick Ingram
Central Illinois
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1974.5 MGB/GT 3.9l Rover

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Re: BritishV8 Trivia Contest
Posted by: mowog1
Date: January 10, 2009 01:48PM

MG Metro 6R4

[www.aronline.co.uk]

The cut-and-shut Rover V8 engine of the development car was replaced by the specially designed and built four-cam, 24-valve, normally aspirated 3-litre V6. The power output was quoted at 410bhp at 9000rpm at the car's official launch in May, 1985 – and it was promised that this would soon be improved upon.

The engine design was then sold to TWR (Tom Walkenshaw Racing) and after some development work on the cambelts and plenums, the engine would make a re-appearance; initially in 3.5-litre form in the Group C Jaguar racing cars, but then in the back of the sensational 217mph Jaguar XJ220.


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Curtis Jacobson
Portland Oregon
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10/12/2007 02:16AM

Main British Car:
71 MGBGT, Buick 215

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Re: BritishV8 Trivia Contest
Posted by: Moderator
Date: January 10, 2009 01:59PM

Perfect answer! How many American MG enthusiasts would recognize this as an MG at all? FISA homologation rules required that 200 be built and sold to the public. (I wonder how many actually were - since the program was cut short.) I was surprised to hear that at least two came to North America. They're probably in Denmark now, but that's another thread...

Rick gets to ask the next question!


mowog1
Rick Ingram
Central Illinois
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1974.5 MGB/GT 3.9l Rover

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Re: BritishV8 Trivia Contest
Posted by: mowog1
Date: January 10, 2009 08:29PM

OK...First - here's a couple of shots of the MG6R4 found at the Imperial Palace in Vegas in 2005. And a lousy shot of the 1/43rd scale 6R4 that I have in my office (I bought this one off of E-Bay for $0.99)
6R4.JPG
MG 6R4.JPG
6R4 data.JPG
MG6R4_1.jpg


mowog1
Rick Ingram
Central Illinois
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1974.5 MGB/GT 3.9l Rover

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Re: BritishV8 Trivia Contest
Posted by: mowog1
Date: January 10, 2009 08:36PM

And now for a TRIVIA QUESTION:

We all know that Ken Costello did his conversions on MGBs.

1) What colour was the body of his first conversion? _________

2) What specific engine did he use and why? _________

3) It was assembled between the months of ______ and _____ in the year _____ .

4) Ken eventually converted over _______ MGBs.

BONUS/TIE BREAKER: What month and day was Ken Costello born (we won't worry about the year). _______________


74ls1tr6
Calvin Grannis
Elk Grove,CA
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74 TR6 / 71 MGB GT TR6/Ls1 71 MGB GT/Ls1

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Re: BritishV8 Trivia Contest
Posted by: 74ls1tr6
Date: January 11, 2009 10:54AM

Can't find what color? The car was from an insurance agent that had damage. OK I will guess on this one to be (B-racing green)

Know the engine and why!---- (ex-Rover/Buick V8)-- Why?He picked up the engine in a friends garage weight was( 318 lbs)

Know the months and year of assembly ---from-- (May) to --(Nov) -- (1969)

Know how many converted---over (200)

Can't find what month born? He was born in the town of Kent, uh! well I guess 1 out of 365 , how about (June)(15)


Best I can do Rick.



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Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN
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10/23/2007 11:32PM

Main British Car:
1979 MGB Buick 215

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Re: BritishV8 Trivia Contest
Posted by: MGBV8
Date: January 11, 2009 12:47PM

Costello's 1st conversion car was his own & it was red.


mowog1
Rick Ingram
Central Illinois
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1974.5 MGB/GT 3.9l Rover

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Re: BritishV8 Trivia Contest
Posted by: mowog1
Date: January 11, 2009 04:52PM

1 - red - correct
2 - still not answered correctly
3 - May to November -1969 - correct
4 - over 200 - correct

Bonus....not even close.


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Curtis Jacobson
Portland Oregon
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71 MGBGT, Buick 215

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Re: BritishV8 Trivia Contest
Posted by: Moderator
Date: January 11, 2009 05:20PM

I thought the "first engine used" was the easy part.

Interestingly, there's a discrepancy on this point in some of the newspaper and magazine reports (probably because "Rover" was more familiar to English readers...) but I believe the MG V-8 Newsletter got it right.

Kent is actually a county, located sorta at the heel of the boot, if you will. It's been called "The Garden of England" and its the birthplace of excellent quality hops for ales. I would guess wildly that Ken may have been born in the town of Bromley. That's where his bungalow was when he built that first car... but to guess a date... ummm. October 15?


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Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN
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1979 MGB Buick 215

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Re: BritishV8 Trivia Contest
Posted by: MGBV8
Date: January 11, 2009 05:24PM

2. Oldsmobile 215


mowog1
Rick Ingram
Central Illinois
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Re: BritishV8 Trivia Contest
Posted by: mowog1
Date: January 11, 2009 06:18PM

Oldsmobile 215 is correct....but why was it chosen over the Buick/Pontiac?!?!

And no, October 15th is not correct.


74ls1tr6
Calvin Grannis
Elk Grove,CA
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74 TR6 / 71 MGB GT TR6/Ls1 71 MGB GT/Ls1

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Re: BritishV8 Trivia Contest
Posted by: 74ls1tr6
Date: January 11, 2009 08:50PM

2. The Olds engine had a better casting than the Buick/Rover engine? The casting was of a better alloy? The casting was also lighter? (in reference to the water jackets in the block from over heating)



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mowog1
Rick Ingram
Central Illinois
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Re: BritishV8 Trivia Contest
Posted by: mowog1
Date: January 11, 2009 09:18PM

Nope...not in the casting of the block.

Swing and a miss, Steeeerike One.

Nope....not in the alloy used.

Swing and a miss, Steeerike Two.

Nope...not in the weight of the block.

Called third strike....Steerike Three....batter is OUT!



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alana
alan atkinson
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68 TR250 LS2

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Re: BritishV8 Trivia Contest
Posted by: alana
Date: January 11, 2009 10:08PM

Total guess - because he had one?


74ls1tr6
Calvin Grannis
Elk Grove,CA
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74 TR6 / 71 MGB GT TR6/Ls1 71 MGB GT/Ls1

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Re: BritishV8 Trivia Contest
Posted by: 74ls1tr6
Date: January 12, 2009 12:45AM

2. because he didn't have to widen the engine bay with the Olds engine?


74ls1tr6
Calvin Grannis
Elk Grove,CA
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Re: BritishV8 Trivia Contest
Posted by: 74ls1tr6
Date: January 12, 2009 01:24AM

2. The second half of the answer

OK, found this article, this has got to be the answer. The Olds engine has 6 bolts around the combustion chamber, also use a different valve train, had better compression and performance with 829 heads or 534 heads. The 746 heads have low compression ratios???


The Article:

Olds engineers went their own route with cylinder head design, preferring a Chevy small block-like combustion chamber and an extra bolt (six in all) around each cylinder to mount the head. The valve cover was also more conventional looking. (Ken Costello built his first MGB V8 using an Olds engine picked up in Belgium !). The valve train is also different. Old used different heads with the same pistons to produce higher compression ratios. An Olds head will not work on a Buick block because of the extra head bolts. For performance applications, you'll want either 829 heads (10.25:1 C.R. for '61-'62 4 bbl auto and manual cars, '63 4 bbl manual cars), or 534 heads (10.75:1 '63 4-bbl automatics). Two bbl heads (No. 746) have low compression ratios and aren't suitable for any performance work.



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mowog1
Rick Ingram
Central Illinois
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Re: BritishV8 Trivia Contest
Posted by: mowog1
Date: January 12, 2009 08:56AM

Bingo!

I'll let Curtis decide who gets to ask the next question...

BTW...Ken was born on January 6th.


mowog1
Rick Ingram
Central Illinois
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1974.5 MGB/GT 3.9l Rover

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Re: BritishV8 Trivia Contest
Posted by: mowog1
Date: January 12, 2009 07:39PM

OK...Curtis has not chimed in...so...

Calvin answered two parts of the question first

Carl answered one part of the question a tad bit later..and a partial answer after that

Calvin picked up the balance of Carl's answer...

So I claim Calvin to be the "winner" and he gets to ask the next trivia question.

Thank you to all participants..
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