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gt40mk1
Pat Cargan
Biggin Hill, Kent, England
(18 posts)

Registered:
12/30/2010 03:22PM

Main British Car:
1949 Jowett Javelin 318 cu. in. Chrysler

Jowett Javelin with 318 Chrysler V8
Posted by: gt40mk1
Date: January 08, 2011 02:35PM

Hi guys,

I'm new to British V8, in fact I am new to any type of forum, so i hope this ends up in the right place on the forum!

I have a 1949 Jowett Javelin with a 318 cu in Chrysler V8, 727 torqueflite, and a narrowed Volvo back axle.

I hope you like....
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rficalora
Rob Ficalora
Willis, TX
(2708 posts)

Registered:
10/24/2007 02:46PM

Main British Car:
'76 MGB w/CB front, Sebring rear, early metal dash Ford 302

authors avatar
Re: Jowett Javelin with 318 Chrysler V8
Posted by: rficalora
Date: January 08, 2011 05:15PM

Very nice Pat!

Rob


fasttiger
Jerry Porsch
Las Cruces, New Mexico
(78 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 08:40AM

Main British Car:
1966 Sunbeam Ford 380 ci with twin turbo's

Re: Jowett Javelin with 318 Chrysler V8
Posted by: fasttiger
Date: January 08, 2011 10:02PM

Very cool car!!! What does it weigh?


gt40mk1
Pat Cargan
Biggin Hill, Kent, England
(18 posts)

Registered:
12/30/2010 03:22PM

Main British Car:
1949 Jowett Javelin 318 cu. in. Chrysler

Re: Jowett Javelin with 318 Chrysler V8
Posted by: gt40mk1
Date: January 09, 2011 12:48PM

Hi Rob and Jerry,

Glad you like the car... not sure about the weight, but the standard car was just under 1 ton, so you would have to add 400 pound or so for the heavier engine, box and axle as well as the extensive chassis strengthening. so probably around 1.2 ton.

here's some more photos...
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fasttiger
Jerry Porsch
Las Cruces, New Mexico
(78 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 08:40AM

Main British Car:
1966 Sunbeam Ford 380 ci with twin turbo's

Re: Jowett Javelin with 318 Chrysler V8
Posted by: fasttiger
Date: January 09, 2011 01:14PM

Still lighter than it looks. I just weighed my Tiger at the last race I was at and it weighed 3030lbs with me in the car but I'm a little fat shi.....LOL


gt40mk1
Pat Cargan
Biggin Hill, Kent, England
(18 posts)

Registered:
12/30/2010 03:22PM

Main British Car:
1949 Jowett Javelin 318 cu. in. Chrysler

Re: Jowett Javelin with 318 Chrysler V8
Posted by: gt40mk1
Date: January 09, 2011 02:47PM

you've got me thinking now, maybe its a lot heavier... I need to get to a weighbridge, but I'm not sure if you can just turn up and weigh the car... the only time I have ever used one was when I got stopped by traffic police 'cos they thought my company car looked a bit low at the back !!!...

totally unrelated... here's a picture of my gt40
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rficalora
Rob Ficalora
Willis, TX
(2708 posts)

Registered:
10/24/2007 02:46PM

Main British Car:
'76 MGB w/CB front, Sebring rear, early metal dash Ford 302

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Re: Jowett Javelin with 318 Chrysler V8
Posted by: rficalora
Date: January 09, 2011 03:48PM

Another cool car pat. If you don't have scales, an easy way to get the weight is to take it to a gas station that caters to truckers. Most of them have drive on scales. You just pull up on the scales & follow the instructions. You usually have to go inside & pay & they give you the weight slips.



fasttiger
Jerry Porsch
Las Cruces, New Mexico
(78 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 08:40AM

Main British Car:
1966 Sunbeam Ford 380 ci with twin turbo's

Re: Jowett Javelin with 318 Chrysler V8
Posted by: fasttiger
Date: January 09, 2011 10:10PM

Pat
Nice cars!!!!! How much motor in the gt40?


roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
(3089 posts)

Registered:
04/24/2009 11:02AM

Main British Car:
74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: Jowett Javelin with 318 Chrysler V8
Posted by: roverman
Date: January 10, 2011 09:44PM

Pat, welcome aboard. "Javelin", no AMC motor?,lol. Easy to lighten-up that "A" motor with alum heads, intake, water pump and headers. It;s "ok" to speak Mopar here.As a long-shot, I might consider a Gen III Hemi, in my Jensen Healy. Cheers, roverman.


gt40mk1
Pat Cargan
Biggin Hill, Kent, England
(18 posts)

Registered:
12/30/2010 03:22PM

Main British Car:
1949 Jowett Javelin 318 cu. in. Chrysler

Re: Jowett Javelin with 318 Chrysler V8
Posted by: gt40mk1
Date: January 12, 2011 12:49PM

Hi Art,

I would love to, but all those engine mods are big money especially in England!!!...

Hi Jerry,

GT40 has 351 S.V.O. gt40 crate engine... comes with ally heads roller rockers etc... said to make 385 bhp with 4 barrel carb, I estimate mine at 400 bhp with 4 webber IDA and decent exhaust system. ( see photo)
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fasttiger
Jerry Porsch
Las Cruces, New Mexico
(78 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 08:40AM

Main British Car:
1966 Sunbeam Ford 380 ci with twin turbo's

Re: Jowett Javelin with 318 Chrysler V8
Posted by: fasttiger
Date: January 12, 2011 09:53PM

Thanks for the pics Pat. So the Hot Rod scene is high dollar over there? Looks like you've built some pretty nice stuff.


gt40mk1
Pat Cargan
Biggin Hill, Kent, England
(18 posts)

Registered:
12/30/2010 03:22PM

Main British Car:
1949 Jowett Javelin 318 cu. in. Chrysler

Re: Jowett Javelin with 318 Chrysler V8
Posted by: gt40mk1
Date: January 13, 2011 03:00PM

Hi Jerry,

Most of the top rods and customs have American running gear, and we do have to pay a premium for performance parts, but a lot of the guys use European running gear as its readily available... I suppose it depends on how much you want to spend.

An engine like the one in the GT40 without carbs, or inlet manifold is around 4,250 pounds sterling , which I suppose is about 6,000 dollars. It wasn't so bad when the pound was around 2 dollars.

I've just looked at some photos of your Tiger, do you use it on the street?.... if so that must be incredible!!

cheers,
Pat.


fasttiger
Jerry Porsch
Las Cruces, New Mexico
(78 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 08:40AM

Main British Car:
1966 Sunbeam Ford 380 ci with twin turbo's

Re: Jowett Javelin with 318 Chrysler V8
Posted by: fasttiger
Date: January 13, 2011 11:31PM

Yea Pat that's what so cool about the car is that it is true street car. If my wife needs something at the store I jump into the Tiger and go get it.
New technolgy is great and the Turbo setup is just is outstanding, I did most of the work myself and had some great sponsers helping me out and also some good friends to meet my goals of having a real 9:50 1/4 mile street car.
Sponsers: Turbo Horse Power
Sherbring Racing
Dyno Edge
Performance Plus machine shop
All are located in Ablq. New Mexico
Cheers back to you
Jerry


davidbrereton1969
David Brereton

(6 posts)

Registered:
01/16/2011 02:10AM

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Re: Jowett Javelin with 318 Chrysler V8
Posted by: davidbrereton1969
Date: January 16, 2011 02:57AM

did you take the body off the chassis? im wondering if any of the chassis is standard did you cut all of the flooring out im guessing it has a gear box and tail shaft tunnel?


gt40mk1
Pat Cargan
Biggin Hill, Kent, England
(18 posts)

Registered:
12/30/2010 03:22PM

Main British Car:
1949 Jowett Javelin 318 cu. in. Chrysler

Re: Jowett Javelin with 318 Chrysler V8
Posted by: gt40mk1
Date: January 17, 2011 03:25PM

Hi David,

The original car doesn't have a separate chassis, but has two 4" rails that run from front to back with various outriggers welded to the rails and the body. On top of the chassis rails and outriggers sits a single piece of plywood that makes a completely flat floor, there is no transmission tunnel as the gearbox and propshaft are lower than the floor.

Now all thats left is the two 4" rails with new outriggers, new steel floor, and steel tunnel...I did have a few photos of the chassis build but I cant find them !

If you look at the attached photo you can make out the original rails directly behind the wooden shifter knob.

Cheers,

Pat.
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davidbrereton1969
David Brereton

(6 posts)

Registered:
01/16/2011 02:10AM

Main British Car:


Re: Jowett Javelin with 318 Chrysler V8
Posted by: davidbrereton1969
Date: January 17, 2011 05:11PM

yeah i have two jowett javelins im keen to v8 at least one of them what was the front end steering and brakes and suspenstoin out of ?


gt40mk1
Pat Cargan
Biggin Hill, Kent, England
(18 posts)

Registered:
12/30/2010 03:22PM

Main British Car:
1949 Jowett Javelin 318 cu. in. Chrysler

Re: Jowett Javelin with 318 Chrysler V8
Posted by: gt40mk1
Date: January 18, 2011 03:24PM

Hi David,

suspension is ford 2.8i capri around mid 80's, but with an adjustable coil over shock modification and a fabricated lower "a" arm, steering rack and column are mk2 escort with a lengthened extension piece from a morris marina that fits between the rack and column, otherwise the column wouldnt reach the rack. Brakes are standard capri which are a 2 pot calipers with vented discs.

in answer to your other messages...... its a shame to have to cut out all the rear to get rid of the torsion bars, i had the same dilemma, but i dont think the axle would take a lot of power... i think that was the hardest and scariest part of the build, and it was the first thing that i did!!...

wouldnt a hilux make it sit too high, also you'de have to put some serious temporary bracing into the body if you was going to chop the complete chassis away.

I had to reduce the size of my photos to post them here.... could that be the problem.

also from a previous thread...I have seen the rover v8 one at a show just outside London, and I have to say it looks a bit odd... i think the main problem is the ride height and the wheel size ( 13" and a bit narrow )... if I had my time again with my car, I would make it into a two door and cut about 12" out of the middle... it looks very long now its sitting at a decent ride height. ( see side photo ).

I will take more photos at the weekend under the car etc.

Cheers, Pat.
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socorob
Robbie
La
(173 posts)

Registered:
09/17/2009 04:42PM

Main British Car:
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series 2 Ford 2.8 V6

Re: Jowett Javelin with 318 Chrysler V8
Posted by: socorob
Date: January 18, 2011 03:30PM

Someone in Australia used a hilux chasis under a Zcar, with a V8 and 4wd, and it doesnt sit up too too high.

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gt40mk1
Pat Cargan
Biggin Hill, Kent, England
(18 posts)

Registered:
12/30/2010 03:22PM

Main British Car:
1949 Jowett Javelin 318 cu. in. Chrysler

Re: Jowett Javelin with 318 Chrysler V8
Posted by: gt40mk1
Date: January 18, 2011 04:03PM

Hi again David, ive found some of the photos......
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davidbrereton1969
David Brereton

(6 posts)

Registered:
01/16/2011 02:10AM

Main British Car:


Re: Jowett Javelin with 318 Chrysler V8
Posted by: davidbrereton1969
Date: January 18, 2011 06:06PM

thank you very much pat. the pics are great did you do all the fabrication yourself ? gee it does sit nice a great stance . great work ? when i said hilux i didnt mean 4x4 but yeah maybee to high ? why did you go jowett ? i went jowett because any other make were to expensive which is hard to understand as only 25000 javelins were built? i had the jowett car club guys come around for a look at mine and thought they would hang me up when i said i wanted to v8 hot rod one but they( older gents ) realy supported the idea, i would like to be able to tow a tear drop caravan, another engine im considering is a v6 3.8 litre holden commodore ( a aussie family car very popular) fuel injected .. i think you guys get the newer modle from us ? probley called a vauxhal>>>>? they go well and parts plentyfull and cheap ? a jowett guy tells me to rebuild a javelin motor properly it will cost heaps ? so that money would go a lot further in modifications ? as id do the fabrication work myself . holdens are easy to buy compleate running cars so the running gear is easy?
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