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mgb260
Jim Nichols
Sequim,WA
(1915 posts)

Registered:
02/29/2008 08:29PM

Main British Car:
1973 MGB roadster 260 Ford V8

65 Alpine Series IV
Posted by: mgb260
Date: July 25, 2011 09:13PM

Now I've went and done it! I picked up a 65 Series IV Alpine. I have a 63 Ford 260 V8 and 4 speed in my garage originally for my MGB project. I went in a different direction with the MGB with the 4.9 Caddy V8 and 4 speed Auto (Jeep AW4). Anyway, I plan on shoehorning the Ford into the Alpine. I'm not making a clone. Mine will say Alpine where the Tiger emblem would be and under that will be an Alpine 260 emblem. Hopefully I can correct the suspension geometry and cooling issues of the Tiger. I plan on using a narrowed Fatman Mustang II streetrod type front suspension and Ranger rear axle narrowed with 2 short side axles. Any comments or advice would be apreciated. If anybody needs steering,engine,transmission or other parts I don't need let me know. I always wanted a Tiger but, couldn't afford one. When I was in High School there was a local club that had a black one similar to this picture:
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Picture of my 260 Ford V8:
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Boy, Iv'e got a ways to go!:
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BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(5648 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: 65 Alpine Series IV
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: July 26, 2011 11:49AM

Yep, you've done it now! But look at it this way, if you can design a bolt-in front end that works, every one of those Tiger guys will have to buy it.

JB


Moderator
Curtis Jacobson
Portland Oregon
(4372 posts)

Registered:
10/12/2007 02:16AM

Main British Car:
71 MGBGT, Buick 215

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Re: 65 Alpine Series IV
Posted by: Moderator
Date: July 26, 2011 11:59AM

Looks like you're ready for a whole lot of fun. I like Alpines much better with small tail fins, like yours. That first photo is (of the black Tiger) is inspirational.


britcars
Phil Ossinger
New Brunswick, Canada
(320 posts)

Registered:
02/02/2009 07:58PM

Main British Car:
1977 MGB Roadster, Rover 3.5 ADVENTURE BEFORE DEMENTIA!

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Re: 65 Alpine Series IV
Posted by: britcars
Date: July 26, 2011 05:23PM

Nice find! I bought a 1966 Alpine new, same dark blue as yours, but sold it when family came along. That is going to be a nice ride.


mgb260
Jim Nichols
Sequim,WA
(1915 posts)

Registered:
02/29/2008 08:29PM

Main British Car:
1973 MGB roadster 260 Ford V8

Re: 65 Alpine Series IV
Posted by: mgb260
Date: September 16, 2011 05:51PM

I was inspired by this Cobra hood and ordered louver panels from RodLouvers.com. Plus I won a GT350 hoodscoop from EBay. My louvers are 11 per side and scoop is bolt on style and I'll cut the front off 1"..
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mgb260
Jim Nichols
Sequim,WA
(1915 posts)

Registered:
02/29/2008 08:29PM

Main British Car:
1973 MGB roadster 260 Ford V8

Re: 65 Alpine Series IV
Posted by: mgb260
Date: September 16, 2011 07:28PM

My 90's Tbird/Cougar V8 emblems I got off EBay came today. I think they will look good, they want way to much for Sunbeam ones.
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Grits
Douglas Rudisill

(10 posts)

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11/25/2007 03:48PM

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Re: 65 Alpine Series IV
Posted by: Grits
Date: September 16, 2011 08:56PM

Jim,
looks like you have your work cut out for you. Can you keep me updated on that Fatman frontend? I am fixing up a 1959 Hillman Husky that should share the same as your Alpine. When funds get better I plan on getting back started.
Doug



mgb260
Jim Nichols
Sequim,WA
(1915 posts)

Registered:
02/29/2008 08:29PM

Main British Car:
1973 MGB roadster 260 Ford V8

Re: 65 Alpine Series IV
Posted by: mgb260
Date: September 19, 2011 10:30AM

Douglas, I'm probably going to use Welder Series or Speedway motors (or homemade) A arms ,homemade narrowed crossmember,Morrison/Wilwood spindles with Intrepid center steer rack. The rear sump oil pan allows the crossmember to go under the engine rather than in front of the large front sump.


roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
(2909 posts)

Registered:
04/24/2009 11:02AM

Main British Car:
74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: 65 Alpine Series IV
Posted by: roverman
Date: September 23, 2011 06:52PM

Jim, please post pic's of your front suspension upgrades. My Jensen Healey will definately need a better system. Moving front wheels approx 5" forward and adding 200 lbs of motor weight ! I'm considering series II RX7,with air bags, and uca from ? Cheers, roverman.


mgb260
Jim Nichols
Sequim,WA
(1915 posts)

Registered:
02/29/2008 08:29PM

Main British Car:
1973 MGB roadster 260 Ford V8

Re: 65 Alpine Series IV
Posted by: mgb260
Date: October 13, 2011 01:47PM

Art, Remember my picture of RX7 lower and Supra upper a arm.
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mgb260
Jim Nichols
Sequim,WA
(1915 posts)

Registered:
02/29/2008 08:29PM

Main British Car:
1973 MGB roadster 260 Ford V8

Re: 65 Alpine Series IV
Posted by: mgb260
Date: October 13, 2011 01:59PM

My suspension would go under the front of rear sump oil pan. Either dual sump or preferably rear sump 80's-90's pickup/Bronco pan. 2X4" crossmember will look similar to Bill Guzman's design with cantlevered 2" square tubing for mount. Conventional Mustang II tubular A arms that use strut rod eliminators to make more room in front to set back Intrepid rack.
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mgb260
Jim Nichols
Sequim,WA
(1915 posts)

Registered:
02/29/2008 08:29PM

Main British Car:
1973 MGB roadster 260 Ford V8

Re: 65 Alpine Series IV
Posted by: mgb260
Date: October 13, 2011 02:17PM

For brakes I would cut off stock Mustang II rotor to make a hub and use 2000 Ford Contour SVT slip on rotor(10.94" vented 4X4.25" lug pattern same as stock Alpine) with GM Metric caliper with large 2 3/4" piston from Speedway Motors, for rear Contour SVT vented rotors and calipers with E-brake.



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socorob
Robbie
La
(173 posts)

Registered:
09/17/2009 04:42PM

Main British Car:
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series 2 Ford 2.8 V6

Re: 65 Alpine Series IV
Posted by: socorob
Date: October 16, 2011 05:51PM

Looks like the contour rear rotors are the right thickness for the rx7 calipers and have the sunbeam/ mustang 2 bolt pattern. Do you know what the inside diameter of the contour rear rotors are and how much it is from the face of the mounting area to the face of the rotor? Wondering if those would fit over my ford 8 inch axle flange. If so these would be a cheap rotor that would require little to no work to fit. Did the contour have built in parking brakes through the rear calipers or did they have drums inside the rotors?


mgb260
Jim Nichols
Sequim,WA
(1915 posts)

Registered:
02/29/2008 08:29PM

Main British Car:
1973 MGB roadster 260 Ford V8

Re: 65 Alpine Series IV
Posted by: mgb260
Date: October 16, 2011 10:50PM

Hi, Robbie. Not sure of inside diameter yet. Been working my normal 6 day week 12 hr shift job at the paper mill.The Mystique and Cougar use the same rear rotor also,yes built in parking brake. It would'nt be too big of a job to turn down your axle hubs if necessary. You would need 15" wheels for the large SVT front rotors. I like the 2 3/4" piston Metric calipers for the 1" thick front rotors. 1" master would be just right.


socorob
Robbie
La
(173 posts)

Registered:
09/17/2009 04:42PM

Main British Car:
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series 2 Ford 2.8 V6

Re: 65 Alpine Series IV
Posted by: socorob
Date: October 18, 2011 07:22PM

I stopped at Autozone today and measured one. The guy wouldn't let me take it out of the shrink wrap so I couldn't get the tape measure down in it, but best eyeballing measurement is 6 to 6-1/8 inches inside clearance. I think my axle flange is something like 5-7/8 so this would fit over it. It was only 15/16 from the outside edge of the disc to where the wheel mounts, so that's my next obstacle. To see if the rx7 rear rotors will fit without hitting my wheel. Good find and thanks for this info. If this works, it will be about $60 for a pair vs over $300 for a Wilwood rotor hat and Coleman hat mounted rotor.



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