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Curtis Jacobson
Portland Oregon
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David Park's Big Block Ford powered 1960 Sunbeam Alpine
Posted by: Moderator
Date: November 30, 2007 01:34PM

Just added this morning... and it's amazing!!! Here's the link: [www.britishv8.org]

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Kris Palmer
Mpls MN
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10/23/2007 03:13PM

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1972 Triumph TR6, Olds F85 V8, TR8 5-speed 'box Olds 215 V8

Re: David Park's Big Block Ford powered 1960 Sunbeam Alpine
Posted by: motormouth
Date: December 01, 2007 07:16AM

That looks like a quick one. Mustang rack & pinion... Wonder how hard that was to swap in. Also wondering about the accelerator. Is it displaced forward of the standard pedal or is that just an illusion?

Wild car. I'd rather be in it than trying to keep up with it.

Kris


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david park

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Re: David Park's Big Block Ford powered 1960 Sunbeam Alpine
Posted by: vintage
Date: December 03, 2007 10:57AM

kris, the fox body rack and pinion steering was not a difficult fit. i copied the tiger steering theory. i mounted the rack to the crossmember, reversed the steering arms right to left pointing forward. bent the ends of the rack back to the steering arms. the sunbeam tie rod ends threaded right on. on the accelerator pedal. it is mounted closer to the driver than nesessary. i originally built the transmission tunnel to accomodate full length headers. requiring a lot of room. after switching to the sidepipes i left things the way they are. i may change the location of the pedal someday, as there is room to do it. however i have no real problems the way it is. thanks, dave


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Nicolas Wiederhold
Minneapolis, MN
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10/16/2007 05:30AM

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'73 Vega GT 4.9L Rover/Buick Stroker

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Re: David Park's Big Block Ford powered 1960 Sunbeam Alpine
Posted by: NixVegaGT
Date: December 03, 2007 06:16PM

I was thinking that gas pedal looked a bit weird but hey you've got to drive it at some point right? I love your build, man. THanks for sharing it.

Did you use the 410 because the deckheight was lower than the 427? Does the stock Sunbeam actually come with a D44 rear? How do you like the 8" rear wheels? I will likely have to go with this thickness for my Vega.

Thanks Dave!

Nic


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david park

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Re: David Park's Big Block Ford powered 1960 Sunbeam Alpine
Posted by: vintage
Date: December 04, 2007 09:00AM

the 410and 427 share the same deminsions. i actually had a 427 medium riser when i built this car, but used the 410 because i did not see the need to put that kind of expense in this car. the 410 is more motor than it needs. the dana 44 came from a old mail dilivery jeep. a very common upgrade for a sunbeam. they are the correct width. i used 8 inch wheels to be conservative for clearance reasons. if i started over i, would use 10 inch on the rear and 8 inch on the front. i have enough room. i built this car from a vision in my mind. overall it came out very satisfactory. there are some things that i may upgrade. i would like to install a power brake booster. i also have the option of power steering with the rack i used. any project like this is very much like a prodotype. the inventing and experimenting with different ideas is what i enjoy. thanks, dave


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Nicolas Wiederhold
Minneapolis, MN
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Re: David Park's Big Block Ford powered 1960 Sunbeam Alpine
Posted by: NixVegaGT
Date: December 05, 2007 07:56PM

Some Vega guys did the Mail Jeep rear swap too. That's pretty cool. I sure would like to expand the rears a bit. I'm not confident I can fabricate flares though. Then again I did fabricate 'Cuda tail lights on my Vega... Hmmm.


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Curtis Jacobson
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Re: David Park's Big Block Ford powered 1960 Sunbeam Alpine
Posted by: Moderator
Date: December 05, 2007 08:32PM

We've got an article or two on the mail Jeep axle in the archives... here's one [www.britishv8.org]

In the next issue of the newsletter, I'm hoping to run two different articles on installing fender flares. I've got volunteers lined up, but I'm not sure how the articles are coming along. The articles will show MGBs getting flared, but the technique should be pretty universal.



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Nicolas Wiederhold
Minneapolis, MN
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Re: David Park's Big Block Ford powered 1960 Sunbeam Alpine
Posted by: NixVegaGT
Date: December 06, 2007 08:15AM

That would be great! I have searched for a good site to detail some fabrication solutions for flares. Something non-glass would be nice. I'd like it to look more seemless if I do anything. Thanks Curtis


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Rob Ficalora
Willis, TX
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10/24/2007 02:46PM

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'76 MGB w/CB front, Sebring rear, early metal dash Ford 302

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Re: David Park's Big Block Ford powered 1960 Sunbeam Alpine
Posted by: rficalora
Date: December 06, 2007 01:59PM

What correlation are you drawing between fiberglass flares & seams being visible? I avoided fiberglass flares on my car due to stories about cracks showing up down the road, but most folks I've talked with since -- folks with lots of experience in the auto body trade -- say that's not really a problem any more. The modern adhesives eliminate it (with proper use of course). I already have my Omni flares & like the shape better than the fiberglass flares that are out there for MG's so I'm going to stick with them, but based on discussions I'd not hesitate to use fiberglass in the future (in fact I'll be doing a fiberglass sebring rear valance on my car which would have the same issue)

Rob


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Nicolas Wiederhold
Minneapolis, MN
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Re: David Park's Big Block Ford powered 1960 Sunbeam Alpine
Posted by: NixVegaGT
Date: December 06, 2007 09:04PM

Ok... It's true that I'm thinking of the cheezy hood scoops my buddies would glue on their hoods in my high school days. I do have experience with making a foam mold and using glass but I always assumed it would crack if I tried for a seemless bond. Hmmmm.

So do you have any resources to research the adhesives? So do I make a construct and bond it to the steel then fill with filler?


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Rob Ficalora
Willis, TX
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'76 MGB w/CB front, Sebring rear, early metal dash Ford 302

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Re: David Park's Big Block Ford powered 1960 Sunbeam Alpine
Posted by: rficalora
Date: December 06, 2007 11:19PM

I'm not an expert, but basic idea is you bond the flare to the metal & then use fiberglass/resin to do fill where necessary & smooth to the the rest of the body.

As for what to use, I'd suggest talking with a local PPG or similar paint supply place. They'll likely have their favorites or products the shops have confidence in... those will be what you want to go with too.


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Nicolas Wiederhold
Minneapolis, MN
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Re: David Park's Big Block Ford powered 1960 Sunbeam Alpine
Posted by: NixVegaGT
Date: December 07, 2007 08:16AM

Thanks Rob. I'll do some research. It would be nice to have a bit more rear traction.


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Dennis Williams

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Re: David Park's Big Block Ford powered 1960 Sunbeam Alpine
Posted by: DBW
Date: February 24, 2008 05:59PM

Nicolas could we see pictures of your vega


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