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rporter
Richard Porter

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adapt VDO speedometer to rover 5 speed.
Posted by: rporter
Date: January 16, 2011 08:31PM

Anyone have advice about adapting VOD speedometer to Rover 5 speed. I have a rover sender for the fuel injection ECU but on English sites they advise not trying to split the electrical signal to go to both the ECU and a VDO.speedometer. Unfortunately I have not been able to find any discussion of what to do to get a signal to the speedometer. I did get a VDO GM sender but there is no way it will adapt to my ECU speed sender mechanicnally. I had thought to piggy back them to each other or use cable. The GM thread is much greater that that of the Rover thread and there is no way to screw the two together although the actual cable ends look the same. Any ideas? .


AL WULF
Allen Wulf
Wheat Ridge, CO
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01/18/2008 12:48AM

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'67 MGB-V8 '62 MGA MKII Deluxe Rover 3.9 EFI

Re: adapt VDO speedometer to rover 5 speed.
Posted by: AL WULF
Date: January 17, 2011 12:24AM

Richard,

We replaced the smiths speedmeter with a 100mm VDO in my sons '64 MGB (with a 5 main 4 cylinder and 3 syncro transmission). We had a local speedometer shop make a cable about 15 inches long from the original by replacing the speedometer end with a end for a GM cable. Then we hooked the GM sending unit to the cable, fastened it to the underside of the car , and ran the wires through a small hole in the tunnel. It works and was cheaper than fixing the old speedo and is also more accurate.

Al


Bill Young
Bill Young
Kansas City, MO
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10/23/2007 09:23AM

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'73 MG Midget V6 , '59 MGA I6 2.8 GM, 4.0 Jeep

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Re: adapt VDO speedometer to rover 5 speed.
Posted by: Bill Young
Date: January 17, 2011 08:58AM

Richard, I like the solution that Allen came up with . In doing some research to try to find a signal source for my EFI I came across this site which has several types of signal generators and adaptors for various transmissions. [www.partshp.com] Might help you or someone else with a conversion. I wanted to retain the stock speedometer, so the inline unit and a special cable would work great in that case.


rporter
Richard Porter

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Re: adapt VDO speedometer to rover 5 speed.
Posted by: rporter
Date: January 17, 2011 12:06PM

I have come to the conclusion that I bought the wrong sender from VDO. I should have 340-011. Per Allen I can then have a speedometer shop replace one end of my Rover cable with a GM nut. Should then all work. Bill thanks for the info about gears. Will be great help to someone with T5 transmission. I wanted to keep my Smith Gauges but now that I have the VDOs I am convinced they are a good alternate. Look like they were made for the car. Thanks guys.


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Fred Key
West coast - Canada
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05/14/2010 03:06AM

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I really thought that I'd be an action figure by now!

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Re: adapt VDO speedometer to rover 5 speed.
Posted by: DiDueColpi
Date: January 19, 2011 02:56AM

Hi Richard,

Most newer electronic speedos have a signal output on them.
You can run your speedo from the present sender on the rover trans and then run the fuel ecu from the speedo output.
The ecu just wants to see a pulse so that it knows whether it should be on its idle map or not. The frequency and amplitude don't matter. It only needs to know if the car is moving or stopped.
The earlier VDO speedos don't have this output so you might have to run the piggybacked senders or you could build a pretty simple buffer circuit to isolate the ecu signal.
The VDO speedos use a 5volt ref signal that the ecu doesn't like. So a couple of resistors and a small capacitor should calm it down enough for the ecu to accept it.

Hope thats helpfull
Cheers
Fred


rporter
Richard Porter

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Re: adapt VDO speedometer to rover 5 speed.
Posted by: rporter
Date: January 19, 2011 09:03PM

Now there is an idea thanks Fred.I bet the UK rover sites were talking about the older VDOs.


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