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engine swaps and other performance upgrades, plus "factory" and Costello V8s

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mgb260
Jim Nichols
Sequim,WA
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Main British Car:
1973 MGB roadster 260 Ford V8

Re: Aluminum Block V8 Questions
Posted by: mgb260
Date: November 16, 2011 03:56PM

We are a nicer bunch here! I see Jim B. frequents that board and usually keeps his cool!


DiDueColpi
Fred Key
West coast - Canada
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I really thought that I'd be an action figure by now!

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Re: Aluminum Block V8 Questions
Posted by: DiDueColpi
Date: November 16, 2011 04:27PM

Yep,
I noticed that JB plays well with others.
Not too sure about his toilet training though!


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
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10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: Aluminum Block V8 Questions
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: November 16, 2011 08:17PM

I guess we all have our flaws. Apparently one of my worst is a lack of respect for authority, but there doesn't seem to be much I can do about it.

JB


mgb260
Jim Nichols
Sequim,WA
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02/29/2008 08:29PM

Main British Car:
1973 MGB roadster 260 Ford V8

Re: Aluminum Block V8 Questions
Posted by: mgb260
Date: November 17, 2011 12:54AM

I screwed up, I don't think it was information overload as much as,I quote"The 215/3.5 is small and has about the same power as the 3.4 V6 stock" that drove Rick over to the V6 side. You can't persuade a new guy with all the stroker and upgrade stuff.


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
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1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: Aluminum Block V8 Questions
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: November 17, 2011 08:26AM

That's why I promote the 300 swap. It's basically the same as the BOPR and has way more potential. But the dirty little secret is that most of the guys who have done V6 swaps have had to cut somewhere, even if it's just removing the old motor mounts. So once you get past that, there is not a whole lot of difference.

JB


roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
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74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: Aluminum Block V8 Questions/ let's go there
Posted by: roverman
Date: November 17, 2011 07:17PM

Jim B.,"way more potential" ? Praytell, how is that ? The 2 bolt mains, the increased deck height, the 4 bolt bores vs. 5-6 ea ? The rope main seal, rust in coolant passages or crack repair ? Buy a high performance intake manifold ? Please enlighten us. Thanks, roverman.


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
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1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: Aluminum Block V8 Questions
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: November 18, 2011 09:41AM

Art, haven't you followed my 340 build at all? The 300 is the 340 with a shorter deck. and can go just as big in displacement simply by swapping crank and pistons, and still have a very good rod ratio. Yes, it is a little taller than the BOPR, about 9/16 of an inch, which is around 14mm for the rest of the world. Not a big difference, and performance intakes for it are available if somewhat uncommon, as well as spacer plates that allow the use of any BOPR intake. Neoprene seals are a direct fit and available from TA and other sources. The head bolts are much more securely held, being bedded in iron and the block is more rigid, allowing higher power levels without resorting to extra measures beyond the standard main caps. These same basic blocks in 350 size have seen 700 hp on an untouched stock block. As for head bolts, the 5 bolt heads have long been recognized as being no better due to the uneven clamping (current practice is to leave the 5th row finger tight) and the 6 bolt heads (Olds 215 only) sadly enough suffer from thread pull-out in the block and will loosen over time even with double helicoils when put under a heavy load. (BTDT) The later Rover blocks all run 4 bolts just like the 300 but they are bedded into aluminum and therefore are inherently weaker. Proper cleaning of the block and use of a proper coolant eliminates any problem with rust and the only instance of cracking I have ever heard of would have been the result of a rebore without sonic checking the cylinder walls in a badly core shifted block, nowhere near the number of problems with shifted liners and such that the Rover motors have experienced.

So, you get the size of the biggest baddest ever max built Rover without doing anything. For about a thousand bucks you get 340-350 cu/in (5.6-5.7L) and forged pistons. Then if you want the hottest heads on the planet you spring for a set of TA heads. Not cheap but we're waiting on you to tell us just how not cheap it turns out to be. Willpower has an intake you can buy off the shelf and TRS has spacers if memory serves allowing you to use the Rover EFI, and the RV8 headers bolt right up.

Or was this just a come-on to get me to repeat all of that?

JB

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