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engine swaps and other performance upgrades, plus "factory" and Costello V8s

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Jim Stabe
Jim Stabe
San Diego, Ca
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02/28/2009 10:01AM

Main British Car:
1966 MGB Roadster 350 LT1 Chevy

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Re: 340 upgrade
Posted by: Jim Stabe
Date: August 29, 2012 03:29PM

Jim

How you coming along on the hood hinges?


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
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Registered:
10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: 340 upgrade
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: August 29, 2012 05:24PM

I have the cross rod and the main arms cut and polished but not buffed. They need welded together then a set of upper hinges, a set of lower pillow blocks, and an offset arm and small custom hydraulic cylinder and mount. Then lines and control wires to finish up. That is probably a week's worth of work that I need to squeeze into the schedule somehow. But I'll post photos once I have some shiny bits to display.

Jim


Jim Stabe
Jim Stabe
San Diego, Ca
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Main British Car:
1966 MGB Roadster 350 LT1 Chevy

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Re: 340 upgrade
Posted by: Jim Stabe
Date: August 29, 2012 05:38PM

Sounds like you're 90% there - only 90% to go.


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(6502 posts)

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10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: 340 upgrade
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: August 30, 2012 11:22AM

I guess you must know about that huh?
I think maybe I'd better make the upper hinges next before I weld the arms to the cross rod since there will probably be machine work involved. The tricky part is caused by the fact that the side hood lines are not parallel. What does that do to the hinge assembly as it goes from horizontal to vertical? Create a bind, most likely. Just have to try it and see.


Jim Stabe
Jim Stabe
San Diego, Ca
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Main British Car:
1966 MGB Roadster 350 LT1 Chevy

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Re: 340 upgrade
Posted by: Jim Stabe
Date: August 30, 2012 11:34AM

I would think that you need to keep the entire hinge mechanism working in a plane that is parallel to the centerline of the car, not parallel to the sides of the hood. Sections of the hinge mechanism can lie in separate planes as long as both are parallel to the centerline of the car.


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(6502 posts)

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10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: 340 upgrade
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: August 30, 2012 08:17PM

Or perpendicular? That can be done I think but it will take some accurate angle measurement and tricky milling set ups. Hopefully I will get a chance to do the final polishing of the arms this weekend and possibly some of the buffing also, then I'll look at the angles. The thing is, the upper hinge probably does not move more than about 30 degrees. It might tolerate some misalignment. But no doubt it would be best to avoid that. I'd also like to make the hinge a good bit beefier than last time around, and would prefer to be at 5/16" or larger on the hinge pin. But that will mean building up the ends of the arms. Perhaps the TIG is the way to go on that, as it will let me build up a more organic shape.

Jim


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(6502 posts)

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Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: 340 upgrade
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: September 01, 2012 08:29AM

I need to make a pair of very small leaf springs. Their purpose is to bias the upper hinge downwards towards the cowl which will make the hinge mechanism articulate properly and I should be able to clamp the end in the hinge mount on the hood assembly. I'm sort of hoping someone has run across a suitable material somewhere along the line. It needs to be extra flexy since a short segment of just a couple or three inches needs to cover around 30° or more of movement and it needs to be corrosion resistant and stainless preferred. Thickness can be about 1/16" to 1/8" and width about 3/4".

Anybody have any ideas? I'm guessing somewhere in the range of 10-20° per inch of flex might work. Maybe there is a stainless grade, or maybe there is a place where I can get some of that nickel-titanium alloy that they make eyeglasses frames out of. Any leads would be great.

Jim



ex-tyke
Graham Creswick
Chatham, Ontario, Canada
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Registered:
10/25/2007 11:17AM

Main British Car:
1976 MGB Ford 302

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Re: 340 upgrade
Posted by: ex-tyke
Date: September 01, 2012 09:05AM

Just had a quick look on the net - just have to find the right supplier of SS spring steel product. Here's one product....
[www.alibaba.com]


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(6502 posts)

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10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: 340 upgrade
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: September 01, 2012 09:09AM

Thanks Graham but I need a small quantity. Alibaba wants to sell 3000 pieces/20Kg,etc. A few ft would be plenty.

Jim


Dan B
Dan Blackwood
South Charleston, WV
(1008 posts)

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11/06/2007 01:55PM

Main British Car:
1966 TR4A, 1980 TR7 Multiport EFI MegaSquirt on the TR4A. Lexus V8 pl

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Re: 340 upgrade
Posted by: Dan B
Date: September 02, 2012 05:13PM

Could you use some other material like a plastic or carbon fiber strip?


Jim Stabe
Jim Stabe
San Diego, Ca
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1966 MGB Roadster 350 LT1 Chevy

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Re: 340 upgrade
Posted by: Jim Stabe
Date: September 02, 2012 06:23PM

McMaster has some spring stock [www.mcmaster.com]


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(6502 posts)

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10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: 340 upgrade
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: September 03, 2012 11:10AM

I guess I'll try the. 031" thick full hard 301SS strip from McMasterCarr and about a 3 leaf spring pack. That should allow enough flex at about the right spring loading to get the upper hinge to articulate properly. Haven't seen a source yet for NiTi strip or for that matter any alloy of titanium in a hardened condition. I just hope I won't be overflexing the stainless. Probably will be pretty close to the yeild point.

Jim


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
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10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: 340 upgrade
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: September 17, 2012 02:22PM

Calling all Racoon Brothers! Shiny bits coming right up!

The hinges are done and mounted. Of course this just means more tasks but it's one more done.

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The operation is smooth and correct. Standing in front of the car I can grab the front of the cutout and by pulling forward and a little upward the front first comes up and then the entire unit swings forward. No springs as of yet, I may not need them, but I'm working on a plan to open and close it remotely.

Jim


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(6502 posts)

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10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: 340 upgrade
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: October 01, 2012 05:46PM

Driveshaft is in and the fuel rails are done except for a throttle linkage pivot, hold downs, and buffing. I plan to order the MegaShift later this week.

Jim


Bill Young
Bill Young
Kansas City, MO
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10/23/2007 09:23AM

Main British Car:
'73 MG Midget V6 , '59 MGA I6 2.8 GM, 4.0 Jeep

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Re: 340 upgrade
Posted by: Bill Young
Date: October 01, 2012 06:37PM

Looks great Jim, more bling. All the racoons are envious!



BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(6502 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: 340 upgrade
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: October 27, 2012 03:31PM

My brother racoons, I think you are really going to like the throttle linkage that I'm working on. I have a few more parts to make and some buffing and polishing to do but I will have some photos soon.

Jim


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(6502 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: 340 upgrade
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: November 23, 2012 11:36AM

Got some pictures finally. They aren't great but at least it's something. Here is the linkage as it attaches to the throttle body. The arm is polished stainless billet:

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Next is the forwrd pivot it attaches to. This translates the up/down motion to fore/aft and also modifies the arc-motion to give finer control to the off idle transition. The TPS is mounted on this shaft:

MVC-183F.JPG

Then the rear pivot further modifies the arc-motion in the same direction and gives attachment to the throttle cable, also accommodating the pivot motion of the cable sheath:

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And finally, the barrel nuts secure the fuel rail down to the intake manifold, providing a secure mounting for the linkages and regulator. Note that the barrel nut is not assembled in this shot, sitting alongside the threaded boss it attaches to:

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I had quite a bit of fun with the anodizing of the parts you see in these shots, as I had never done it before, but as you can see the results came out quite good, and the camera really does poor justice to the colors. Some of the challenges were pretty significant ones. The bracket which holds the throttle cable is cast aluminum for instance, always a challenge in any anodizing attempt. The barrel nuts too, as they are hard anodized using a one-off composition and process, giving a greenish tint to the natural color.

Which brings up the last point. As you can see I have gone to great lengths to insure that my car has the utmost in eco-friendly features. The fueling system is about as green as I could make it, considering it is in a red car. Green fittings from Parker, green fuel pressure regulator as modified by Blackwood Labs, green brackets and hold down nuts for the fuel rails, and I even have a set of green injectors to go in it once I flush and flow them. So I just want everyone to know that I am doing my part for the planet.

Jim


roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
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Registered:
04/24/2009 11:02AM

Main British Car:
74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: 340 upgrade
Posted by: roverman
Date: November 23, 2012 02:58PM

Jim, We are just green with envy. Long live Mother Earth. Nice work, roverman.


MGBV8
Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN
(4559 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 11:32PM

Main British Car:
1979 MGB Buick 215

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Re: 340 upgrade
Posted by: MGBV8
Date: November 24, 2012 02:03PM

I had no idea the environmentalists just meant the COLOR green! Now, it makes so much more sense. ;)


TR6-6SPD
Ken Hiebert
Toronto Ontario
(255 posts)

Registered:
04/23/2008 11:43AM

Main British Car:
1972 TR6 1994 5.7 L GM LT1

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Re: 340 upgrade
Posted by: TR6-6SPD
Date: November 25, 2012 08:56AM

Well then, that makes this car, Super Eco-friendly:
[www.britishv8.org]
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