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donfaber
Don Faber
Terra Alta WV
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1979 MGB 3.9L Rover V8

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Changing transmission fluid?
Posted by: donfaber
Date: September 21, 2012 09:44PM

Just found out my tranny is a NWC Camaro T5 #13-52-072 - have been using ATF, not gear oil. Tremec work manual says ATF in all T-5's, several web sites say 85-90W gear oil. What do you guys say? Any flushing if I change?


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Rick Ingram
Central Illinois
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10/17/2007 09:36PM

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1974.5 MGB/GT 3.9l Rover

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Re: Changing transmission fluid?
Posted by: mowog1
Date: September 21, 2012 10:05PM

ATF


ex-tyke
Graham Creswick
Chatham, Ontario, Canada
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10/25/2007 11:17AM

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1976 MGB Ford 302

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Re: Changing transmission fluid?
Posted by: ex-tyke
Date: September 22, 2012 09:17AM

ATF..... X2.
I wouldn't worry about flushing - just drain and refill.


donfaber
Don Faber
Terra Alta WV
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Re: Changing transmission fluid?
Posted by: donfaber
Date: September 22, 2012 09:32AM

Thanks - assume x2 is Dextron II.


MGBV8
Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN
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10/23/2007 11:32PM

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1979 MGB Buick 215

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Re: Changing transmission fluid?
Posted by: MGBV8
Date: September 22, 2012 11:59AM

That's Dextron III.

Not sure I agree, though. The first thee forward gears run on needle bearings on the World Class T-5. Non WC does not. It may have come from the factory with 70wt gear oil. May be okay with either, IDK.


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Graham Creswick
Chatham, Ontario, Canada
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1976 MGB Ford 302

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Re: Changing transmission fluid?
Posted by: ex-tyke
Date: September 22, 2012 12:00PM

Quote:
assume x2 is Dextron II...
Nah, just agreeing with Rick.....but Dextron II is the ticket.


MGBV8
Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN
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1979 MGB Buick 215

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Re: Changing transmission fluid?
Posted by: MGBV8
Date: September 22, 2012 02:49PM

Oops, it's Dexron. I don't think they make Dexron II any longer.

[en.wikipedia.org]

I still think gear oil goes in the NWC T-5s & only the World Class T-5s came with ATF.



britcars
Phil Ossinger
New Brunswick, Canada
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1977 MGB Roadster, Rover 3.5 ADVENTURE BEFORE DEMENTIA!

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Re: Changing transmission fluid?
Posted by: britcars
Date: September 22, 2012 05:07PM

I've been driving mine (NWC T-5) for two years with gear oil. It came from an "83 Camaro that I once owned and it had gear oil in the tranny when I bought it. If I remember correctly the NWC T-5 has bronze synchronizers and ATF will eventually damage the tranny.

I just googled this website: [www.moderndriveline.com]

{All the synchronizer rings are made of solid bronze which are of different size than those found in a World-Class T-5. It is because there is no bearing under each gear and the bronze synchro rings that the NWC T-5 use the heavier Dextron II. Since Dextron II is no longer available the engineers at TREMEC now recommend using straight 50w gear oil. The lighter Dextron III weight can be used but may effect shifting and wear. Torque rating for the 2.95:1 NWC T-5 was 265ft/lbs}


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kelly stevenson
Southern Middle Tennessee
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10/25/2007 09:37AM

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2003 Jaguar XK8 Coupe 4.2L DOHC/ VVT / 6sp. AT

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Re: Changing transmission fluid?
Posted by: kstevusa
Date: September 22, 2012 05:51PM

I tend to agree with Carl & Phill. The "Mustang" boys made this point when they discussed the type of fluid for T-5's. The early NWC can run the 70W, but later T-5'd require ATF. GM recommend Syncromesh (their dealer brandk) and Penzoil makes it also. I run Mobil Synthetic ATF in my T-5Z as recommended by D&D Performance, rebuilder and dealer. The T-5Z has Kelvar blocker rings and do not require heavier fluid. Just my 2 cents.


denvermgb
Brad Carson
Aurora, Colorado
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1975 MGB 350 SBC bored 0.040 over

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Re: Changing transmission fluid?
Posted by: denvermgb
Date: September 24, 2012 06:38PM

I have the same NWC tranny, 1352-072, in my conversion. I just had my tranny rebuilt about 2500 miles ago, and I use gear oil. Since I have my tranny mounted straight up, not at an 18* angle, I jack up the pass side of the car so that the tranny sits at 18* when I fill it. No issues, shifts smooth. My previous tranny was a NWC and I used gear oil in that one, too.

Brad



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donfaber
Don Faber
Terra Alta WV
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1979 MGB 3.9L Rover V8

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Re: Changing transmission fluid?
Posted by: donfaber
Date: September 29, 2012 08:09PM

Gonna make the change from ATF to 50weight gear oil - anyone suggest flushing? procedure?


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