pspeaks Paul Speaks Dallas, Texas (698 posts) Registered: 07/20/2009 06:40PM Main British Car: 1972 MGB-GT 1979 Ford 302 |
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I have found a number of wheels I like, mostly the Voxx MG-3. Voxx refers to it as 15x7, 4x114.3, 38sml. I’m not familiar with sml, is that the same as offset? I know this is too much offset, but does it mean I could use a spacer behind it? I have a milling machine and lathe in my garage and if unavailable I can machine pretty much any spacer I want. I’ll call Voxx tomorrow and ask but they probably won’t have any idea what a MG is. Just thought I’d run it by you guys first.
Paul |
pspeaks Paul Speaks Dallas, Texas (698 posts) Registered: 07/20/2009 06:40PM Main British Car: 1972 MGB-GT 1979 Ford 302 |
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A 15x7 weighs 16 pounds. They didn’t have their number on the website so I sent them an email about the offset. I’ll send them another about the hub bore. Let you know when I hear from them.
Paul |
ex-tyke Graham Creswick Chatham, Ontario, Canada (1165 posts) Registered: 10/25/2007 11:17AM Main British Car: 1976 MGB Ford 302 |
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The Voxx website indicates 2 available offsets of 20 & 38mm for that particular 15 x 7 wheel - that probably indicates that 'sml' is indeed the offset dim'n.
[www.voxxwheel.com] |
mstemp Mike Stemp Calgary, Canada (222 posts) Registered: 11/25/2009 07:18AM Main British Car: 1980 MGB Rover 4.6L |
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Paul,
Those are the wheels I am running but 16x7 with 38 mm offset. Using a 3/8" spacer as I mentioned before. Sml stands for silver with a machined lip. |
pspeaks Paul Speaks Dallas, Texas (698 posts) Registered: 07/20/2009 06:40PM Main British Car: 1972 MGB-GT 1979 Ford 302 |
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Thanks guys, I think that’s the way to go! I’ll see if I get any emails from them tomorrow. I have commitments most of the day tomorrow so I can’t order them until Tuesday anyway. Mike, a couple of questions, do you have stock MG suspinion and no flares, did you have any trouble getting lug nuts, are there plugs for the holes you don’t use, and did you have to change the wheel studs for longer ones? And one last question. Do you get less clearance with 16's or is the tire sidewall just shorter and stiffer. I'm open to the idea of 16 if it doesn't present a problem?
Paul Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 04/08/2013 12:46AM by pspeaks. |
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mstemp Mike Stemp Calgary, Canada (222 posts) Registered: 11/25/2009 07:18AM Main British Car: 1980 MGB Rover 4.6L |
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Paul,
My car has leaf springs with lowering blocks, sits at 13.5" from wheel center to chrome strip. Slight rub on outside lip on big bumps. Could use slightly less spacer than the 3/8" I have now. This is all based on my tires, 205/55/16, and stock fenders with no mods. If I rolled my outside lip would help but affraid I would crack the paint as mgb metal is stiffer than modern cars. One reason to stay 15" is tire stiffness as my ride is plenty harsh on my local roads (poor). Yes I needed longer studs and small head nuts.my wheels only have 4 holes, not 8 like some of the multi fitment wheels so no silly looking empty lug holes. One issue is if you have a stock mg diff as the center caps will not fit due to the axle nut that protrudes. Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/08/2013 09:18AM by mstemp. |
mstemp Mike Stemp Calgary, Canada (222 posts) Registered: 11/25/2009 07:18AM Main British Car: 1980 MGB Rover 4.6L |
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Paul,
Been awhile since I did those. Got the studs from Summit and I think they were these: [www.summitracing.com] You will have to check the knurl diam to be sure as I no longer have the invoice. I went with these front and rear and yes they were changed to metric as they had the correct length and diam for teh rear. Had to shorten them on the front. Lugs nuts I got were gorila tuner acorn seat, discount tire should have them depending what you use for studs. |
pspeaks Paul Speaks Dallas, Texas (698 posts) Registered: 07/20/2009 06:40PM Main British Car: 1972 MGB-GT 1979 Ford 302 |
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Thanks Mike, I'll have to figure out what to do about the center caps, but thanks to you I think I've got a handle on it. I was going by a picture I saw on their webpage but I have an email into them about 4 stud holes rather than 8.
Paul |
mstemp Mike Stemp Calgary, Canada (222 posts) Registered: 11/25/2009 07:18AM Main British Car: 1980 MGB Rover 4.6L |
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Paul,
Biggest thing to consider is the tire overall width. My 205/55/16 come in at 8.4" and its pushing it. Also the stock diff is offset so the LHS rubs more than the RHS. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/08/2013 02:48PM by mstemp. |
pspeaks Paul Speaks Dallas, Texas (698 posts) Registered: 07/20/2009 06:40PM Main British Car: 1972 MGB-GT 1979 Ford 302 |
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I haven’t measured my GT’s differential offset yet but every MG I’ve ever owned has had that problem. I had planned to use 205,50R15 tires, roll the fender lips, and use a panhard bar. The car needs a new paint job which I’ve been putting off to use the money on parts but in the distant future I may flare the fenders, just not right now.
Paul |
pspeaks Paul Speaks Dallas, Texas (698 posts) Registered: 07/20/2009 06:40PM Main British Car: 1972 MGB-GT 1979 Ford 302 |
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Just went out and measured my GT. The rear axle is to the left ¼” which seems to be less than what I’m hearing from most of you guys but still, it’s off. I don’t like saying this because it’s not the best way to do it, but would it be too dumb an idea to use different thickness wheel spacers to equal the tire clearance or a ¼” spacer on one side and none on other? If and when I put a Ford rear end under it I’ll correct this.
Just got an email from Gabriel at Voxx Wheels: the MG-3 is a single drilled wheel so none ot that multi-fit look. I’ll be ordering them in the next day or two. Paul Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/09/2013 01:29PM by pspeaks. |
pspeaks Paul Speaks Dallas, Texas (698 posts) Registered: 07/20/2009 06:40PM Main British Car: 1972 MGB-GT 1979 Ford 302 |
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Some of you may already know about this site but I just found out. For just about anything to do with what you’re looking for in the way of wheels and many other things, check-out this site.
[www.gorilla-auto.com] Paul |
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Moderator Curtis Jacobson Portland Oregon (4577 posts) Registered: 10/12/2007 02:16AM Main British Car: 71 MGBGT, Buick 215 |
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For lug nuts, I'd highly recommend McGard's 64000 series. Made in U.S.A. and available through many of the popular catalogs: [www.mcgard.com]
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pspeaks Paul Speaks Dallas, Texas (698 posts) Registered: 07/20/2009 06:40PM Main British Car: 1972 MGB-GT 1979 Ford 302 |
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OK. I guess this will be the final word. After numerous emails between myself and Voxx customer service to get details I went to Discount Tire, my local distributor, and placed an order; an hour later I got a call from Discount. When they called Voxx they were told there is no way a 38mm offset can be installed on an MG and the use of spacers are too dangerous and they don’t recommend them and refused to ship the wheels. When Discount tried to explain this was a rather modified MG and not stock, they refused to discuss it. You guys do what you want, but for me I’ll not do business with Voxx in the future. Discount said to come back in and they would find me a set of wheels at a discount. They were very nice and was shocked at Voxx and there condescending attitude.
Paul |
MGBV8 Carl Floyd Kingsport, TN (4512 posts) Registered: 10/23/2007 11:32PM Main British Car: 1979 MGB Buick 215 |
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When you speak to a representative on the phone, you never know if you are going to get a knowledgeable person or not. In you case, Paul .... NOT. Discount Tire spoke to the wrong person.
Using the calculator below, plug in a 5" wide wheel with 22mm offset (stock late rostyle). Compare it with your wheel of choice, 7" wide with 38mm offset. We are talking about a wheel that will protrude 9mm more than stock. My wheels are out farther than that, but I dealt with the fender lip & installed panhard rod. I spent nearly 6 months trying to find a wheel for my MG about 22 years ago. Had zero luck until I quit telling them what kind of car I wanted to put them on. I just did all my own measuring & researching and then ordered what I could find that fit. [kgm.tiwing.com] |
BlownMGB-V8 Jim Blackwood 9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042 (6469 posts) Registered: 10/23/2007 12:59PM Main British Car: 1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS |
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I concur. Can you imagine the reactions when saying I wanted 11 x 17- 5 lugs for the rear of an MGB? Same with tires. Even after ordering the tires the seller called to try talking me out of it.
Jim |