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hirot
Ian Hart
Ashbourne UK
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06/01/2011 05:15AM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB GT (conversion) Rover 3947 R380 gearbox

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Remote Oil filter position
Posted by: hirot
Date: February 10, 2014 01:37PM

I have a Rover V8 in my GT and was trying to find a better place for the oil filter which is in the standard place at the top of the wing by the radiator.

I had read that some folk put it under the wing and before I make a big mistake by guessing where is the best place to fasten it, I wanted to make sure this was a good idea and what type of road protecion it might require.

I was working on the principal that if it is moved it would be less messy to change filter, cool the oil a bit and take out a source of heat from under the hood.

Most pictures I have managed to find show it it the standard place, so I wondered if it was only racing Bs that moved it.

Regards Ian


ex-tyke
Graham Creswick
Chatham, Ontario, Canada
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10/25/2007 11:17AM

Main British Car:
1976 MGB Ford 302

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Re: Remote Oil filter position
Posted by: ex-tyke
Date: February 10, 2014 02:06PM

Have had mine tucked under the fender for 9 years now - no problems in all that time

Remote oil filter 1.jpg


rficalora
Rob Ficalora
Willis, TX
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Registered:
10/24/2007 02:46PM

Main British Car:
'76 MGB w/CB front, Sebring rear, early metal dash Ford 302

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Re: Remote Oil filter position
Posted by: rficalora
Date: February 10, 2014 08:21PM

Mine is a bit higher, but in about the same place as Graham's.


Jim Stabe
Jim Stabe
San Diego, Ca
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02/28/2009 10:01AM

Main British Car:
1966 MGB Roadster 350 LT1 Chevy

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Re: Remote Oil filter position
Posted by: Jim Stabe
Date: February 10, 2014 08:38PM

Make sure where ever you put it that the oil doesn't drain out all over the car when you remove it.


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Curtis Jacobson
Portland Oregon
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10/12/2007 02:16AM

Main British Car:
71 MGBGT, Buick 215

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Re: Remote Oil filter position
Posted by: Moderator
Date: February 10, 2014 11:01PM

I'd guess probably a dozen or more distinct remote filter mount installations are shown in the photo gallery - especially on MGBs with Ford engines. (Terry Schulte's car comes to mind.) I'm skeptical any cooling advantage adds up to a hill of beans though. I had a remote filter mount on my car, but it always weeped a bit at the connections. These designs add complexity and other potential problems. (Example: some of them are more vulnerable to collision damage.) They're dead weight. IMHO, if you can make a swivel mount work you'll be worlds ahead.

Carl Floyd's car:
http://www.britishv8.org/MG/CarlFloyd/CarlFloyd-D.jpg

If your engine is mounted at just the right height, a Buick V6 mount might work for you:
http://www.britishv8.org/MG/CurtisJacobson/CurtisJacobson-BA.jpg



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hirot
Ian Hart
Ashbourne UK
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1971 MGB GT (conversion) Rover 3947 R380 gearbox

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Re: Remote Oil filter position
Posted by: hirot
Date: February 11, 2014 03:22AM

Gentlemen thank you for your replies and your pictures show the place where I thought I would try. I asked the question so that I didn't do something stupid especialy as I was going to modify the current mount to use its captive nuts as the backing plate for my new mount. Ergo if I made a mistake I would have to get another mount and paint it etc.

Curtis, the V6 mount looks ideal....if I had enough space and the reason for moving it was that I had to undo the swivels to be able to get the old filter out as it wouldn't go between the fans and its oil pipes. It was always going to be messy and yes I would be forever tightening/changing the pipe ends as the swivels leaked.

Again thanks for the help....my next minor modification and much enjoyment begins.

Regards Ian


MGBV8
Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN
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10/23/2007 11:32PM

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1979 MGB Buick 215

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Re: Remote Oil filter position
Posted by: MGBV8
Date: February 11, 2014 04:44PM

Way back in the mid to late 90s when I was using Metacrawler to harvest conversion info. There was some discussion about ticking at startup after the car had sat for long periods due to the oil draining back. Maybe it was the oil filters used. I just didn't want to deal with the hoses & such. Like Curtis said the V6 swivel mount works great for some.

Those Ford guys just don't have the room for anything but a remote filter. ;)



danmas
Dan Masters
Alcoa, Tennessee
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10/28/2007 12:11AM

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1974 MGBGT Ford 302

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Re: Remote Oil filter position
Posted by: danmas
Date: February 11, 2014 06:37PM

Quote:
Those Ford guys just don't have the room for anything but a remote filter. ;)

That's true, and there is barely enough room for the adapter.


RMO 699F
Mike Maloney
SW Ohio
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Registered:
12/09/2007 12:28PM

Main British Car:
1974 MGB Sebring GT, 3.9 Rover V8

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Re: Remote Oil filter position
Posted by: RMO 699F
Date: February 11, 2014 07:24PM

Decided to put mine here a few years ago.....oil filter changes are fairly easy...just remove the three screws that hold the grill and then pull the grill for easy access...
Red GT Oil Filter.jpg


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Curtis Jacobson
Portland Oregon
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10/12/2007 02:16AM

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71 MGBGT, Buick 215

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Re: Remote Oil filter position
Posted by: Moderator
Date: February 11, 2014 10:16PM

Ian, this thread points to a source for the v6 "metric" oil pump covers.
[forum.britishv8.org]
If you think one might work for you, the 22.50 USD price tag might be attractive.


hirot
Ian Hart
Ashbourne UK
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1971 MGB GT (conversion) Rover 3947 R380 gearbox

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Re: Remote Oil filter position
Posted by: hirot
Date: February 12, 2014 03:14AM

Kinda convincing pictures and price, so I guess I will leave it where I have now just put it and if the V6 will fit in the space I will order one.

The V6 option is probably a lot more sensible as under the wheel arch the filter and housing are going to get lots of spray and salt which won't do the aluminium any good. I have made a cover but I suspect it won't stop all the spray.

Again thank you for the information and links.

Regards Ian


mstemp
Mike Stemp
Calgary, Canada
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11/25/2009 07:18AM

Main British Car:
1980 MGB Rover 4.6L

Re: Remote Oil filter position
Posted by: mstemp
Date: February 12, 2014 09:10AM

Ian,

Does the steering on the RHS not cause problems that force you to use the remote setup? Not too sure a V6 flange would work on your side.


hirot
Ian Hart
Ashbourne UK
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Main British Car:
1971 MGB GT (conversion) Rover 3947 R380 gearbox

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Re: Remote Oil filter position
Posted by: hirot
Date: February 12, 2014 11:10AM

Mike S, everything seems to get in the way. The steering, the radiator, the anti-roll bar and my two electric fans.

Having looked at Curtis's pictures and viewed the V6 flange....and then lay on my back I don't think there is enough room. I would like to use the V6 option and will look around to see if anyone here has used it. It is much easier if you can see/feel/touch a part.

Mike M, I like your idea but my grill was a bit of a push fit and will only come back out again with paint chips.

Again thanks.

Ian


RMO 699F
Mike Maloney
SW Ohio
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Main British Car:
1974 MGB Sebring GT, 3.9 Rover V8

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Re: Remote Oil filter position
Posted by: RMO 699F
Date: February 12, 2014 11:37AM

Ian...my grill is a bit of a compression fit too...and it did leave a couple of small chips, but I just got used to it....
Red GT Sebring (3).jpg


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