smelfi Steve Melfi Alexandria Ohio (90 posts) Registered: 04/26/2008 07:35AM Main British Car: 1977 MGB 302 |
Bummer
I'm just an exhaust system installation away from driving my 302 MGB. So after spending years on my build and thousands on body work and paint I managed to do this a couple of days ago when I was installing the door parts - window assembly, vent window, etc. About a half hour after I completed the door work I was at my work bench and heard a pop, didn't know what it was until the next day when I saw it.
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ex-tyke Graham Creswick Chatham, Ontario, Canada (1165 posts) Registered: 10/25/2007 11:17AM Main British Car: 1976 MGB Ford 302 |
Re: Bummer
I feel your pain, Steve.
I've had the infamous COD on the passenger side for a few years now - it was painful to see it slowly materialize after a total ground up restoration, but after a few years and a few miles, you just come to accept it. |
smelfi Steve Melfi Alexandria Ohio (90 posts) Registered: 04/26/2008 07:35AM Main British Car: 1977 MGB 302 |
Re: Bummer
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BlownMGB-V8 Jim Blackwood 9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042 (6470 posts) Registered: 10/23/2007 12:59PM Main British Car: 1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS |
Re: Bummer
You could pull a Mikey and put a band-aid over it...
Jim |
smelfi Steve Melfi Alexandria Ohio (90 posts) Registered: 04/26/2008 07:35AM Main British Car: 1977 MGB 302 |
Re: Bummer
JWD
There was no previous crack that I know of, but I hadn't taken a real close look at it prior to having the body work and paint done. The passenger door had a crack that I repaired. Looking back I should have gone ahead and welded a support to it same as I did to the passenger door. Oh well. Steve |
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JWD Jim Durham Gig Harbor, Wa. (103 posts) Registered: 01/22/2013 11:43AM Main British Car: 1980 MGB Ford 302 (398.9 HP, 383.2 TQ) |
Re: Bummer
Steve,
The reason I asked is that you said you heard a "Pop". It sounds to me like the previous weld let go. I was in the process of repairing my cracks (by drilling a hole to stop the crack, welding up the crack and added a substantial piece of metal behind the crack area) when a buddy stopped by who is a design engineer. We studied the cause of the crack and came up with a theory. The crack seems to always start at the 90° corner at the base of the wing window which indicates a stress point caused by pressure being applied by the vent window/windshield seal area. Also, the inherent issue of "cowl shake" in all convertibles makes it worse and uni-body construction exasperates it. In summary, you have a stress point under pressure and a vibration to make it worse. The solution we came up with is to weld up the 90° corner so it's an arc instead of a sharp corner (this won't interfere with adjusting the vent window assembly) and to adjust the vent assembly and door so that area isn't under so much stress. Jim |
88v8 Ivor Duarte Gloucestershire UK (1041 posts) Registered: 02/11/2010 04:29AM Main British Car: 1974 Land Rover Lightweight V8 |
Re: Bummer
My recollection from the days when these cars were in use, is that it wasn't helped when people used the quarter-light frame to shut the doors.
Ivor |
BlownMGB-V8 Jim Blackwood 9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042 (6470 posts) Registered: 10/23/2007 12:59PM Main British Car: 1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS |
Re: Bummer
I welded a 3/16" diameter wire about 3" long into the lip to spread the stress over a larger area.
Jim |
302GT Larry Shimp (241 posts) Registered: 11/17/2007 01:13PM Main British Car: 1968 MGB GT Ford 302 crate engine |
Re: Bummer
Before my car was painted I put new door skins on with the idea that starting fresh might be more durable in the end. This is very easy to do, the skins are held in place mainly by crimping; to remove just cut through the edges with an angle grinder, then cut through the few spot welds (maybe 4 or 6). The new skins are crimped in place by tapping with a hammer or else by using Eastwood crimping pliers. Install the door and bend it as needed so it fits flush all around its perimeter, then spot weld in a few places to stabilize it. Ten years ago the skins were only $55 each, I have not checked lately, but they are probably still reasonably priced.
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BlownMGB-V8 Jim Blackwood 9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042 (6470 posts) Registered: 10/23/2007 12:59PM Main British Car: 1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS |
Re: Bummer
Yes, that's a pretty simple thing to do and doesn't take very long, but you still should reinforce the COD area.
Jim |