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DRHaulsee
Donald Haulsee
Claremont, Va
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Main British Car:
1979 MGB 2.3 Turbo 16Valve DOHC Folvo

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The One, the Only, Folvo MGB Build
Posted by: DRHaulsee
Date: April 03, 2015 03:21PM

First thing to clarify is what the heck is a Folvo?

A Folvo is a hybrid 2.3 liter four cylinder turbo engine considting of a Ford 2.3 Turbo bottom end mated to an aluminum Volvo B234 16 valve DOHC cylinder head.

This will be a build in progress so don't expect to see the finished product for quite some time.

Next thing is WHY?

The Volvo B234 DOHC head has lots of flow capability while the stock cast iron Ford SOHC head is severely limited. Yes, Esslinger Engineering makes a aftermarket aluminum SOHC heads for the Ford engine that have much better flow than stock and their top end product has equvalent flow to the Volvo B234 head but at much higher valve lift.

I have one of these in my 1976 Ford Capri II. A dyno visit in February recorded 240 hp at the wheels at 17 psi with ignition timing and cam timing both retarded about 10 degrees from where they should have been. Don't ask why just accept that I screwed up.

I actually built a spare long block engine for the Capri since I really expected to blow up the first one. It's been running for 7 years now and I've decided to repurpose that long block into an MGB.

I decided I wanted to use a rubber bumper MGB just to make the build a little easier. I acquired one about 2 weeks ago.
OnTrailer.jpg

Ready for a test fit?
MolvoAbove.jpg

Playing games with turbo location. Turbo is backwards. I'll have to build a header....
Flip1.jpg

And finally, the Folvo engine in my Capri II.
Folvo_Engine_9_19_2013.jpg

Right now the engine compartment is gutted. I need to sand, prime, and paint it. Lots of existing paint has been lifted by leaking clutch and brake master cylinders.


Todd McCreary
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Re: The One, the Only, Folvo MGB Build
Posted by: Todd McCreary
Date: April 04, 2015 02:11PM

Wow.

How much hassle was it to get the Volvo head onto the Ford block? Is the Volvo head aluminum?


DRHaulsee
Donald Haulsee
Claremont, Va
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1979 MGB 2.3 Turbo 16Valve DOHC Folvo

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Re: The One, the Only, Folvo MGB Build
Posted by: DRHaulsee
Date: April 04, 2015 02:41PM

The Volvo B234 head is Aluminum. The head bolt pattern matches the Ford 2.3 engine block. Dowel pin holes are a little off but the Volvo uses smaller dowels so machining the head to the correct location and size is possible.

The B234 DOHC head intake flows 230 cfm at .320" lift compared to a stock Ford head at 149 at .500" lift.
The B234 DOHC exhaust flows 196 cfm at .320" lift compared to a stock Ford head at 142 cfm at .500 lift.

At .500"+ lift an Esslinger ARCA or SVO head will flow the same, if not a bit more than the Volvo B234 head at stock .320 lift.

The Volvo head greatly out flows the stock head at lower lifts. This is all about area under the curve.

Coolant pasasges and oiling passages must be modified. There are 2 ways to do this. Either weld a block on the head or modify the engine block.
I chose to modify the block rather than weld on the aluminum head.
5 passages in the Ford block have to be sealed

Oil drain back at the front (Not shown in picture)
Oil drain back at the rear
Two water jacket holes at the rear
The oil passage near the head stud

Oil drain backs were sealed using 7/8 freeze plugs. An appropriate end mill was used to take the oil drains to round deep enough for the plug to go flush.

Both the coolant passages were machined round to 15/16" again with an end mill. Freeze plugs were pressed in.

The oil supply was plugged with 1/8" NPT and redrilled on the side for 1/8" NPT.

Here is a comparison showing the stock Ford head gasket overlaid on the modified block.
Passage Comparison.jpg

Here is a picture of the modified block.
Modified Block.jpg

There is a coolant passage on the front of the Volvo head that has to be sealed. Again I used a freeze plug.

The pistons need additional clearance reliefs for the 4 valves. Yoshifab rents a fixture to notch the pistons. I used slightly shorter flat top forged pistons as I wanted to reduce compression ratio since these are going to be boosted engines.

I had to fabricate a timing belt tensioner as well as exhaust and intake manifolds.

Here is a dyno sheet from my February session. Note the wheel torque available at 2800 rpm. Remember I had timing wrong on these pulls. I've done better but I don't have the charts available to post.
Folvo Dyno 2_7_2015.jpg


WernerVC
Werner Van Clapdurp
Lynchburg, Va
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MGB 1977 Rover 3.5

Re: The One, the Only, Folvo MGB Build
Posted by: WernerVC
Date: April 04, 2015 04:02PM

Why not use the entire Volvo engine ?
Is there an advantage using the Ford engine bloc ?


DRHaulsee
Donald Haulsee
Claremont, Va
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1979 MGB 2.3 Turbo 16Valve DOHC Folvo

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Re: The One, the Only, Folvo MGB Build
Posted by: DRHaulsee
Date: April 04, 2015 04:29PM

The Ford is shorter than the Volvo block. (hood clearance)
The Volvo block is laid over at 15 degrees to the exhaust side. No room for a turbo in a Capri or MGB
I don't have to fabricate or buy special stuff to hook a T5 to it.
At the time Ford 2.3 Turbo blocks were readily avaiable as were cheap forged pistons and good rods.
I originally built it to go into a 1976 Ford Capri. Factory engine mounts were available for the Capri.
I have one sitting on an engine stand already built.


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Curtis Jacobson
Portland Oregon
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Re: The One, the Only, Folvo MGB Build
Posted by: Moderator
Date: April 04, 2015 07:19PM

This is a really cool thread!


Todd McCreary
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Re: The One, the Only, Folvo MGB Build
Posted by: Todd McCreary
Date: April 05, 2015 12:52PM

The head bolt pattern matches the Ford 2.3 engine block.

This alone gobsmacks me.

I figured there had to be some sort of modding going on, though.



MustangSix
Jack Collins

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Re: The One, the Only, Folvo MGB Build
Posted by: MustangSix
Date: April 06, 2015 12:10PM

I really admire the craftiness that goes into this, but it seems a lot of hard work.

It's certainly a unique engine, but bang for the buck, would it not be easier to just get a 2.3 Duratec or Ecotec? Either of those two engines have heads that flow as well as the Volvo.


DRHaulsee
Donald Haulsee
Claremont, Va
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1979 MGB 2.3 Turbo 16Valve DOHC Folvo

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Re: The One, the Only, Folvo MGB Build
Posted by: DRHaulsee
Date: April 06, 2015 12:54PM

And I really admire the craftiness of your Zetec build.

Hard to beat the bang for the buck when the engine has been sitting on the stand for 7 years ready to go....

Seriously, I have a Mazdaspeed6 with the MZR DI turbo Duratec. Wonderful engine. There are quite a few challenges (just like a ZETEC) to getting it mated to a rear wheel drive transmission. One of my concerns with the Duratec is that it is tall and the oil pan is deep. Transmission selection is very limited although the Quads4rods bellhousing opens that up some.

This will be my last Folvo engine. If I do anything else it will probably be a Duratec/Ecotec based project.


theonlyiceman53
Bill Russell
Florda
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11/18/2008 06:01AM

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77MGB 350 Chevy with LT1 heads

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Re: The One, the Only, Folvo MGB Build
Posted by: theonlyiceman53
Date: April 06, 2015 05:43PM

I've been looking for a good set of heads for years and nothing I've come up with will fit on an MGB block. Anyone know of a SOHC or DOHC that has similar cylinder spacing and head bolt pattern that could conceivably fit on an MGB block? Something reasonably entertaining, not expensive and super time consuming.

Thanks,
Bill


MustangSix
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Re: The One, the Only, Folvo MGB Build
Posted by: MustangSix
Date: April 07, 2015 10:54AM

I recall seeing this head swap several years ago and thought it was amazing. I have no doubt that it will perform as well as you hope and I'm looking forward to seeing how this turns out! I just love the pure inventiveness of these types of solutions, just like turning a Zetec 90 degrees!

Bill, I once saw something about a Zetec head on a B-series block, but I think that would be a tremendous effort. Using a complete Zetec or Duratec would get you better, newer engineering in the bottom end and a lot less weight as well.


rubbinisracin
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Re: The One, the Only, Folvo MGB Build
Posted by: rubbinisracin
Date: April 07, 2015 01:29PM

It is kinda mind boggling to think that bolt patterns line up like this. I have heard about this with 1275cc MG midget motors and bmw k-something single overhead cam heads bolting right up and placing the cam gear in the right place to run it off the crank....!@#%!@#


DRHaulsee
Donald Haulsee
Claremont, Va
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1979 MGB 2.3 Turbo 16Valve DOHC Folvo

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Re: The One, the Only, Folvo MGB Build
Posted by: DRHaulsee
Date: April 07, 2015 01:55PM

Here are some pictures of the B234 combustion chamber.
IM004834.JPG

This shows the coolant return port on the head that needs to be plugged.
IM004837.JPG

This is an overlay of the Ford head gasket to the head. You can see the difference in size of the dowel pin holes. Note the Volvo head never had coolant passages behind #4 cylinder. No need to add them.
IM004838.JPG

This is a view under the valve cover.
Folvo VC and Belt Off.jpg


DRHaulsee
Donald Haulsee
Claremont, Va
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1979 MGB 2.3 Turbo 16Valve DOHC Folvo

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Re: The One, the Only, Folvo MGB Build
Posted by: DRHaulsee
Date: April 10, 2015 07:21PM

I purchased the engine side mounts from a member. They came today. I cut off the old frame side mounts, installed the mounts on the engine, attached a T5 transmission and set the engine/ transmission in for a trial fit. I wanted to see what I needed to do for the frame side mounts.

Passenger side
Passengermountinstalled2.jpg

Driver side
Drivermountinstalled2.jpg

And shifter alignment
T5Mockup.jpg


DRHaulsee
Donald Haulsee
Claremont, Va
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1979 MGB 2.3 Turbo 16Valve DOHC Folvo

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Re: The One, the Only, Folvo MGB Build
Posted by: DRHaulsee
Date: April 14, 2015 04:45PM

The gentleman making my new intake sent me photo's a few minutes ago. I'm VERY pleased. I may have to put this on the Capri and move the one from the Capri over to the MGB.
KishIntake3.jpg
KishIntake2.jpg



waterbucket
Philip Waterman
England
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07/30/2011 01:08PM

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1972 MGB GT

Re: The One, the Only, Folvo MGB Build
Posted by: waterbucket
Date: April 18, 2015 07:16AM

In response to Bill Russel's question regarding four valve heads for the MGB engine there is a possibility that a head from the rover M or T series engine might fit. If I remember correctly BL needed new engines for the seventies to meet emissions regulations, but being strapped for cash and maybe political issues within BL a new engine was developed from the B series block and was called the O series. This was made in two sizes 1.7 and 2.0 litres and was used in various BL cars during the seventies to early nineties.
When Rover was designing the SD1 they needed a modern 2 litre engine and the M series was created by putting a 16 valve head on the O series block. If I remember correctly the engine weighed about 50 lbs less than the B series and gave 120 or 140 bhp. A later turbo version gave in excess of 200bhp and I think Superchips? could boost that to over 250 bhp. As a bonus I believe the MGB gearbox bolts directly up to this engine.
Sometime ago on the web, I found a reference to a MGB with the M or T series engine fitted.
Philip



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/18/2015 07:18AM by waterbucket.


DRHaulsee
Donald Haulsee
Claremont, Va
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Registered:
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Main British Car:
1979 MGB 2.3 Turbo 16Valve DOHC Folvo

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Re: The One, the Only, Folvo MGB Build
Posted by: DRHaulsee
Date: April 18, 2015 08:28AM

Intake mockup on the engine in the car.
IntakeOnMGB1.jpg
IntakeOnMGB3.jpg

And the Driveshaft. This is a Speedway 28" shaft with a Neapco 2-2-899-1 yoke flange and a Ford T5 slider. The shaft is 2" dia and uses 1310 series universal joints.
MGBDriveshaft.jpg


MGBV8
Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN
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1979 MGB Buick 215

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Re: The One, the Only, Folvo MGB Build
Posted by: MGBV8
Date: April 24, 2015 11:05AM

It's mindblowing how well that is all coming together!


mgb260
Jim Nichols
Sequim,WA
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02/29/2008 08:29PM

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1973 MGB roadster 260 Ford V8

Re: The One, the Only, Folvo MGB Build
Posted by: mgb260
Date: April 24, 2015 05:41PM

Yeah, The 2.3 is like the SBC of fours and with a modern DOHC head! Cool!


DRHaulsee
Donald Haulsee
Claremont, Va
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1979 MGB 2.3 Turbo 16Valve DOHC Folvo

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Re: The One, the Only, Folvo MGB Build
Posted by: DRHaulsee
Date: April 30, 2015 03:45PM

Hi Guys!

Betcha thought I was gone.....

Photo of engine almost ready to be dropped in. Still working on exhaust manifold and alternator mounting though.
EngineRedVC.jpg
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