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BOOTLEG
Gary Rosema
Wisconsin
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11/18/2013 07:26PM

Main British Car:
1978 MGB Rover 3.5L

locate remote oil filter
Posted by: BOOTLEG
Date: June 18, 2016 02:07PM

In searching for the perfect home for my new remote oil filter, I ended up here on the inside fender surface just above the engine adapter. I know most weld a bracket here but I am wondering why that is even necessary. Since the pump is doing the work, it would seem that gravity plays no real role. Other than managing a little mess when removing the filter, why can't I just bolt it in this position? It's a straight shot with no elbows and the hoses clear the radiator hose.

Thoughts?
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40indianss
don foote

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Re: locate remote oil filter
Posted by: 40indianss
Date: June 18, 2016 11:44PM

its certainly simple and direct if you don't have a problem with dirty oil in the engine compartment and trying to clean the mess after an oil change. never have understood why an oil filter should be upside down or sideways. manufacturers apparently do it to save a dime


Capt'n Moorgone
Mike Moor
Angola,IN
(114 posts)

Registered:
11/20/2008 07:05PM

Main British Car:
1973 MGB 300 Buick

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Re: locate remote oil filter
Posted by: Capt'n Moorgone
Date: June 19, 2016 11:25AM

I came out the bottom of the adapter, and ran hoses under the frame to a spot behind the headlight. That way you can mount it right side up for easy changing. Also removes the heat from the engine bay.
Mike


rficalora
Rob Ficalora
Willis, TX
(2636 posts)

Registered:
10/24/2007 02:46PM

Main British Car:
'76 MGB w/CB front, Sebring rear, early metal dash Ford 302

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Re: locate remote oil filter
Posted by: rficalora
Date: June 19, 2016 07:43PM

I did the same as Mike.


britcars
Phil Ossinger
New Brunswick, Canada
(332 posts)

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02/02/2009 07:58PM

Main British Car:
1977 MGB Roadster, Rover 3.5 ADVENTURE BEFORE DEMENTIA!

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Re: locate remote oil filter
Posted by: britcars
Date: June 19, 2016 08:19PM

Same here as Mike and Rob. Easy, mess free oil changes.


Charles
Charles Long
McDonald, TN
(177 posts)

Registered:
09/15/2013 08:54AM

Main British Car:
1966 MGB V6 1994 Camaro 3.4L 60V6

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Re: locate remote oil filter
Posted by: Charles
Date: June 19, 2016 10:16PM

Same here, just cleaner. Just remove wheel change filter reinstall wheel. I guess, I could change filter without removing wheel.
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RMO 699F
Mike Maloney
SW Ohio
(525 posts)

Registered:
12/09/2007 12:28PM

Main British Car:
1974 MGB Sebring GT, 3.9 Rover V8

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Re: locate remote oil filter
Posted by: RMO 699F
Date: June 19, 2016 11:29PM

Mounted mine on the passenger side radiator support just behind the grill. Simply remove three screws that hold the grill and easily access the oil filter for removal.
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302GT
Larry Shimp

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11/17/2007 01:13PM

Main British Car:
1968 MGB GT Ford 302 crate engine

Re: locate remote oil filter
Posted by: 302GT
Date: June 21, 2016 09:30AM

Some people have used a GM "metric" adapter on the oil filter base that allows the filter to be mounted on the engine at such an angle that it clears the steering rack and eliminates the need for a remote filter. You might want to see if it will work on your installation.


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(5828 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: locate remote oil filter
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: June 21, 2016 10:37AM

The "Metric" filter base works very well with widened frame rails for a wide radiator and a forward engine position. I used it on my 340 and I think we have one on the 455 in the Roadmaster. I don't think it is the answer here, though I could be wrong. However, there are a couple of other mounts that Buick used, actually a pretty good variety of them, and I believe there is one that does work pretty well.

We really should try to put together a series of reference photos and make it a part of a reference library in some way. I know this problem has been solved without resorting to hoses. Although the most common solution seems to be the D&D swiveling filter base, I am quite certain there is a factory part that does work.

Jim


MGBV8
Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN
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10/23/2007 11:32PM

Main British Car:
1979 MGB, Buick 215

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Re: locate remote oil filter
Posted by: MGBV8
Date: June 21, 2016 01:15PM

D&D swivel base & 7/8" sway bar.

http://www.britishv8.org/MG/CarlFloyd/CarlFloyd-D.jpg



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/21/2016 01:17PM by MGBV8.


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Curtis Jacobson
Portland Oregon
(4411 posts)

Registered:
10/12/2007 02:16AM

Main British Car:
71 MGBGT, Buick 215

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Re: locate remote oil filter
Posted by: Moderator
Date: June 22, 2016 12:25AM

Quote:
Some people have used a GM "metric" adapter on the oil filter base that allows the filter to be mounted on the engine at such an angle that it clears the steering rack and eliminates the need for a remote filter. You might want to see if it will work on your installation.

Yep, certainly worth a try.

To make it work on my car, I only had to hammer a ~3/8" deep dent into the inboard side of the frame. No cutting. No welding.

(With modified MGB radiator mounted between rails...)
http://www.britishv8.org/mg/CurtisJacobson/CurtisJacobson-Dc.jpg

(Cutting/welding came later, when I installed a "Sirocco" radiator above the rails.)
http://www.britishv8.org/mg/CurtisJacobson/Ignition-A3.jpg

For reference, both radiators were positioned directly above the sway bar, not forward of it.


had to buy it
Lorne Mitchell
Toronto, Ontario
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11/04/2013 06:09PM

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Re: locate remote oil filter
Posted by: had to buy it
Date: June 22, 2016 07:08AM

Curtis
Where did you locate a take off for a line to an oil pressure guage? I am trying to get away without a remote filter. Unfortunately I have already painted the engine bay. It will be a shame to bang up the frame rail even though it will be hard for anyone to see.

Thanks

Lorne


Burrogs
Matt Burroughs
Houston, TX
(37 posts)

Registered:
01/18/2016 02:19PM

Main British Car:
1970 MGB GT V8 Conversion Ford 331ci

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Re: locate remote oil filter
Posted by: Burrogs
Date: June 22, 2016 08:52AM

Here's a pic of my setup. I'll add my vote to the wheel well/headlight location.
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BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(5828 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: locate remote oil filter
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: June 22, 2016 09:41AM

I found a spray paint that is a reasonably close match to body color and bought a six pack. I use it as touch up paint in hidden areas, under the body and hood.

Jim


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Curtis Jacobson
Portland Oregon
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10/12/2007 02:16AM

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71 MGBGT, Buick 215

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Re: locate remote oil filter
Posted by: Moderator
Date: June 24, 2016 02:35AM

Lorne wrote:
Quote:
Curtis
Where did you locate a take off for a line to an oil pressure guage?

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DiDueColpi
Fred Key
West coast - Canada
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05/14/2010 03:06AM

Main British Car:
What if the Hokey Pokey really is what it's all about?

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Re: locate remote oil filter
Posted by: DiDueColpi
Date: July 08, 2016 02:02AM

An often little considered fact, oiling systems need to be "self bleeding". By that I'm referring to air locks in the system.
Exactly the same as cooling systems or any other fluid transfer system.
With a line that is held too high or an upside down oil filter for example, an air bubble or embolism can become trapped and be released at a very inopportune time. Generally leading to an inexplicable bearing failure.
To properly use an inverted oil filter you must use an extension tube inside the filter to allow it to fill and bleed fully.
Oil lines and cooler orientation should promote air evacuation.
And during an oil change it's advantageous to have the oil lines and coolers self drain. Often this requires the use of a bleed valve.
Most newer vehicles have an automatic bleed built into the filter housing that dumps everything into the oilpan when the filter is removed. So pull the filter first before you drain the pan.

Hope thats helpfull.
Fred


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