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Joe Schafer
Central Michigan
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10/23/2007 06:46AM

Main British Car:
1971 Mgb 1991 5.0 Ford

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What to do with a 71 dash
Posted by: MGB SS
Date: June 26, 2018 08:30PM

New (aftermarket) gauges will be here soon, and I am thinking I have to do something with the butt ugly 71 dash.
Can the 72-76 dash be swapped in without to much trouble? Has anybody stripped the pad and vinyl off the 71 dash and painted the steel any other thoughts or suggestions?
Joe



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MGBV8
Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN
(3498 posts)

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10/23/2007 11:32PM

Main British Car:
79 MGB, Buick 215

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Re: What to do with a 71 dash
Posted by: MGBV8
Date: June 26, 2018 09:46PM

Where ya been, Joe? You've been MIA so long you haven't seen Payl Schil's '71 roadster? He stripped the dash & painted it body color. Looks great.

Come to Dayton for the V8 Meet & see it in person!

[www.britishv8.org]


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Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
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10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: What to do with a 71 dash
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: June 27, 2018 12:56AM

Joe, decades ago I stripped mine except for the brow, added an early glove box, fitted early gages, added more gages and stuff then covered it in black leather from Tandy. It could use a redo now but it looks like it belongs there. Some guys have put in A/C vents, mine has an equalizer.

Jim


MG four six eight
Bill Jacobson
Wa state
(285 posts)

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10/23/2007 02:15AM

Main British Car:
73 MGB Buick 215, Eaton/GM supercharger

Re: What to do with a 71 dash
Posted by: MG four six eight
Date: June 27, 2018 01:03AM

Yes, a 72-76 dash will bolt right in and looks WAY better then that hideous "Abingdon Pillow" in stock form!
Some of the glove box parts for the 72-76 dash are not available new though, so you will need to source some good used pieces.



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Joe Schafer
Central Michigan
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1971 Mgb 1991 5.0 Ford

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Re: What to do with a 71 dash
Posted by: MGB SS
Date: June 27, 2018 08:17AM

Hey Carl, Jim, yes it has been a while sort of lost track when the meets went to the west side of the country that and you know how life gets in the way, you are correct I should come to Dayton.

Good suggestions, I thought I had seen a 71 dash that was stripped and painted just couldn't remember who's it was. I like Paul's but would have to do something with all that blank real estate on the right side and a glove box would be handy, I think I would put in a DVD Nav head unit in the middle (if I could find one with a bright enough screen) where Jim put his equalizer. Jim I like yours but might be easier to find a 72 dash (maybe) than find a glove box and parts to cut in


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kelly stevenson
Southern Middle Tennessee
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10/25/2007 09:37AM

Main British Car:
2003 Jaguar XK8 Coupe 4.2L DOHC/ VVT / 6sp. AT

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Re: What to do with a 71 dash
Posted by: kstevusa
Date: June 27, 2018 09:07AM

Great to hear from you Joe, been a long time. Sure hope you can get to Dayton. See you there?


MGBV8
Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN
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10/23/2007 11:32PM

Main British Car:
79 MGB, Buick 215

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Re: What to do with a 71 dash
Posted by: MGBV8
Date: June 27, 2018 09:11AM

July 11-15 All your friends will be there!

[www.britishv8.org]



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Joe Schafer
Central Michigan
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1971 Mgb 1991 5.0 Ford

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Re: What to do with a 71 dash
Posted by: MGB SS
Date: June 27, 2018 10:06AM

Bill, Thanks I thought the 72 was as easy swap, anybody have one for sale? I just put up an add in the classifieds

Kelly, good to hear from you as wells

Thanks
Joe


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Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN
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79 MGB, Buick 215

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Re: What to do with a 71 dash
Posted by: MGBV8
Date: June 27, 2018 10:23AM

Guess you know there is a bigger cutout for the steering column cowl. The cutout for the 72-76 is the same as the 77-80.

I have swapped my steering column cowl to the 72-76 to get rid of the extra hump they added for the light switch. More knee room, now.


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Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
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Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: What to do with a 71 dash
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: June 27, 2018 10:52AM

It was one of the very first things I did on my '71. Had a '67 parts car and just went for it one day. That was 3 decades ago and I'd do a lot cleaner job of it these days, may in fact be a winter project this year. However I've never regretted the leather. It had some wrinkles and scars, some discolorations, never was real happy with the blending of the glove box door or the contour of the brow, but the feel of it is better than anything else. Plus it gives you very wide latitude in cutting and welding to suit your fancy. I have now adopted the XJS cam-lock speedo and tach mounts, what a difference it makes to be able to just rotate and remove those! Very tempting to just do all the gages that way.

Years ago I bent some heavier gage metal to replace the lower console and did my own layout on that. My mistake there was in not discarding the stock layout entirely, especially the awful rocker switches. They have all been replaced now but the square holes remain, filled with black nylon adapters.

Jim


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Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN
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79 MGB, Buick 215

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Re: What to do with a 71 dash
Posted by: MGBV8
Date: June 27, 2018 11:31AM

" I have now adopted the XJS cam-lock speedo and tach mounts, what a difference it makes to be able to just rotate and remove those!"

Mine came that way OEM. :)


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Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
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1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: What to do with a 71 dash
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: June 27, 2018 01:05PM

Seriously Carl? Why have I never seen that? You're joking, right?

Jim


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Joe Schafer
Central Michigan
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1971 Mgb 1991 5.0 Ford

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Re: What to do with a 71 dash
Posted by: MGB SS
Date: June 27, 2018 01:30PM

XJS cam-lock mounts? would like more info, Google only brought up Jaguars


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Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN
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79 MGB, Buick 215

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Re: What to do with a 71 dash
Posted by: MGBV8
Date: June 27, 2018 03:07PM

:) Yeah, no cam lock, but my speedo & tach do come out the front with just a press & twist.


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Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
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1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: What to do with a 71 dash
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: June 27, 2018 04:13PM

Well the jag dash is wood so it is thick enough to recess a wavy spring behind the bezel. Then it has 3 brass lugs on the outside of the can which go through notches in the steel panel behind the wood. So you just turn it to the notches and it pops out. On mine I made a plastic foam piece that went behind the steel in place of the spring. Not perfect, the plastic foam is too soft so I'll use something firmer next go around. Anyway, glued that to the back side. It has notches and ramps for the lugs. Something made of metal with wire springs and detents would probably be better but a little tricky to make. Might even come up with something out of sheet metal that will work. Anyway it's a heck of a lot better than trying to get the screw fasteners undone.

If you are redoing the dash anyway it would be fairly simple to attach the springs to the back side before covering the dash, and that's what I am thinking of this winter.

Jim



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Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN
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79 MGB, Buick 215

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Re: What to do with a 71 dash
Posted by: MGBV8
Date: June 27, 2018 05:12PM

That's the way mine works, a spring behind the bezel & 3 notches in the dash. Push & twist about 30 degrees.

This only applies to the speedo & tach.


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Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
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Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: What to do with a 71 dash
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: June 27, 2018 05:40PM

Wasn't aware they'd done that, wouldn't mind looking at it. Yours is a 1980?

Jim


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Rob Ficalora
Willis, TX
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Registered:
10/24/2007 02:46PM

Main British Car:
'76 MGB w/CB front, Sebring rear, early metal dash Ford 302

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Re: What to do with a 71 dash
Posted by: rficalora
Date: June 27, 2018 07:29PM

Joe, your car was one of my inspirations. Would be great to meet in person. Hope you make it to Dayton!


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Joe Schafer
Central Michigan
(140 posts)

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10/23/2007 06:46AM

Main British Car:
1971 Mgb 1991 5.0 Ford

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Re: What to do with a 71 dash
Posted by: MGB SS
Date: June 27, 2018 09:44PM

OOPS double post



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MGB SS
Joe Schafer
Central Michigan
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10/23/2007 06:46AM

Main British Car:
1971 Mgb 1991 5.0 Ford

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Re: What to do with a 71 dash
Posted by: MGB SS
Date: June 27, 2018 09:47PM

I guess I can picture what you are saying, if you put the springs behind the dash they would also have to be notched? was thinking this was some aftermarket mount set up that a person could purchase. I assume you guys both have the Factory Smith gauges?
Anyway Jim how did you keep the brow on your dash is it just foam and you cut the pillow pad off below it?

Carl, my 71 has a big shroud on the steering column you think the dash cutout is even bigger in 72?

Rob thank you I think your car turned out great!! And of coarse I always have a soft spot for cars done with the "Omni Flares"

As far as coming down to Dayton I have Dam Inspections scheduled that Thurs and Fri but thinking I will be done by noon on Friday and head down for Friday evening and Saturday. It would be great to see all the new cars, meet there owners and of coarse see a lot of old Friends

Thanks Dan I will give him a shout tomorrow



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