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BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(6470 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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GT Work Weekend
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: June 15, 2009 11:56AM

Several of you expressed an interest in helping to finish the Roadmaster, and maybe setting up a weekend for next month. Right now the 18/19th and 25/26th look promising, so I need some feedback on who can make it and when. Most of these small tasks could be squared away over the course of one weekend if we had enough guys working on the car, so what'ya say guys, can we knock these out?

Incidentally, the money is in the bank, about $1200 after Dale's check clears. Also Graham is near making a radiator recommendation and I think we might be able to have one here by then. The engine will probably have to come back out for the HTOB so we'd better plan on doing that first.

Jim

Below is a list of small tasks that we can take care of:

-Install front brake calipers/install master cylinder/bleed brakes
-Install HTOB/clutch master/bleed (Brian is exchanging for a shorter unit)
-Install shifter
-Install fuel pump, connect carb, check operation
-Install engine wiring
-Install throttle linkage
-Install battery
-Install dash/connect gages/hook up wiring
-Install seats
-Install new e-brake pawl
-Install console
-Install spark plugs/wires/distributor
-Install PCV plumbing
-Install hood struts
-Install hatch struts
-Install radiator/hoses/wiring
-Install interior trim
-acquire and install the correct lug nuts


Citron
Stephen DeGroat
Lugoff, SC
(367 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 09:43PM

Main British Car:
1970 MGBGT V6, 7004R, AC, matching trailer 3.1 liter

Re: GT Work Weekend
Posted by: Citron
Date: June 15, 2009 02:07PM

Jim,
I'll have to check with my boss, Margaret about the 18/19. I know I can't make the 25/26.
I let you know.

Steve


mowog1
Rick Ingram
Central Illinois
(1523 posts)

Registered:
10/17/2007 09:36PM

Main British Car:
1974.5 MGB/GT 3.9l Rover

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Re: GT Work Weekend
Posted by: mowog1
Date: June 15, 2009 09:04PM

Both are out for me. Work the first set of dates - Colorado the second set.


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(6470 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: GT Work Weekend
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: June 16, 2009 11:01AM

Is there a date that does work for you Rick?

Max thinks the 25th works for him.

David Kirkman may be able to make it that weekend. I don't know what other weekends either David or Max might have available.

Do we need to push it back to August?

Jim



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mowog1
Rick Ingram
Central Illinois
(1523 posts)

Registered:
10/17/2007 09:36PM

Main British Car:
1974.5 MGB/GT 3.9l Rover

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Re: GT Work Weekend
Posted by: mowog1
Date: June 16, 2009 09:14PM

June is shot for me.

I'll look at my July schedule. The MGC meet in Auburn is towards the end of the month. I'll have a couple of weekend at the pharmacy mixed in as well. I'll find some time...Pete and I can make it down sometime....maybe we can do something during the September gathering as well.


MGBV8
Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN
(4514 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 11:32PM

Main British Car:
1979 MGB Buick 215

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Re: GT Work Weekend
Posted by: MGBV8
Date: June 16, 2009 11:01PM

I thought we were already looking at July (as in next month)?

The weekend of the 25th, I believe I have a Scout camping trip at my sister's bosses 200 acre wood, that I arranged. I kinda need to be there.

When in August?


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(6470 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: GT Work Weekend
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: June 17, 2009 10:55AM

I sent out a group e-mail, hopefully that will help us organize. We need to add missing names to the mailing list. Carl is right, we are talking about June. (Rick, those dates don't match weekends in June. Probably we're all tied up for the rest of the month anyway.) We want to try to get as much done as we can before September when Pete has his cook-out so maybe we'll get a chance to drive it around a little. The 25th is looking strong but there's no reason we can't do both the 18th and the 25th. A moderate crew each weekend would probably do more than a huge crew on one weekend. But either one is fine.

Jim



Citron
Stephen DeGroat
Lugoff, SC
(367 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 09:43PM

Main British Car:
1970 MGBGT V6, 7004R, AC, matching trailer 3.1 liter

Re: GT Work Weekend
Posted by: Citron
Date: June 17, 2009 02:14PM

Jim,
the boss says I can make it on the july 16, 17, 18 .
Let me know if that works for you.

Steve


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(6470 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: GT Work Weekend
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: June 17, 2009 05:34PM

Dave Kirkman can come on either weekend, we and so can Dave VanWyck so we may just do both weekends. It'd be a quick way to get a lot done.

Jim


MGBV8
Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN
(4514 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 11:32PM

Main British Car:
1979 MGB Buick 215

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Re: GT Work Weekend
Posted by: MGBV8
Date: June 17, 2009 06:11PM

"Carl is right, we are talking about June"

I thought we were talking about July.


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(6470 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: GT Work Weekend
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: June 17, 2009 06:38PM

Can I confuse things any worse? See, told you I wasn't a real good organizer. Good thing Carl is around to set things straight. July. Right. Somehow I always manage to get them confused.

Jim


madmax
Max Fulton
Durham, NC
(186 posts)

Registered:
10/19/2008 07:45PM

Main British Car:
1974 1/2 MGB 1972 MGB 1977 V8 project 1972 B r 1860 cc

Re: GT Work Weekend
Posted by: madmax
Date: June 18, 2009 09:38AM

All:

I agree the moderate crew will work best-- say 4 people? Not enough "bench work" to spread out 6 people.

I'd like to make it when others are going to make it. The 18th/19th is an SCCA race weekend for a friend, but he's not positive that he's ready to race yet. So, that *might* end up being available for me. If that one ends up looking better for more attendees, let me know. So far, seems I might be flying solo on the 25th..


Now, to ask that which has been bothering Me: What is an HTOB? :-)

M


ex-tyke
Graham Creswick
Chatham, Ontario, Canada
(1165 posts)

Registered:
10/25/2007 11:17AM

Main British Car:
1976 MGB Ford 302

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Re: GT Work Weekend
Posted by: ex-tyke
Date: June 18, 2009 10:01AM

HTOB = Hydraulic Throw Out Bearing
It's a poor excuse for a regular TOB, a clutch fork and a slave cylinder......but sometimes one doesn't have a choice.


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(6470 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: GT Work Weekend
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: June 18, 2009 10:46AM

As I understand it right now:
18th
Steve

25th
Max
Dave Kirkman
Dave Van Wyck

Carl- maybe August (can you suggest a date?)
Rick- sometime (when? very vague Rick.)

Anyone else?

Oh yeah, me.


MGBV8
Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN
(4514 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 11:32PM

Main British Car:
1979 MGB Buick 215

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Re: GT Work Weekend
Posted by: MGBV8
Date: June 18, 2009 10:22PM

Max,

I was going to send you to an acronym website, but they don't know what it is either. :)



MG four six eight
Bill Jacobson
Wa state
(325 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 02:15AM

Main British Car:
73 MGB Buick 215, Eaton/GM supercharger

Re: GT Work Weekend
Posted by: MG four six eight
Date: June 19, 2009 01:21AM

Jim
Do you need a braided clutch hose for the HTOB? If so, I have a brand new one that I can donate to the cause.
Bill


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(6470 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: GT Work Weekend
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: June 19, 2009 10:24AM

That's generous of you Bill, but I think we're in pretty good shape on that.

btw, how's the blower motor running? Are you getting any unevenness in distribution? (Asking because I'll be starting on a new intake in a week or so for my car.)

Jim


MG four six eight
Bill Jacobson
Wa state
(325 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 02:15AM

Main British Car:
73 MGB Buick 215, Eaton/GM supercharger

Re: GT Work Weekend
Posted by: MG four six eight
Date: June 19, 2009 09:43PM

Jim
It's running good! I have the boost cranked up to 8.5-9 psi now. I'm pretty sure I wont go any higher then that, since it runs pretty strong and I dont want to blow'er :-) up!
The cylinder distribution does move around a bit, due to the bypass valve opening and closing. Also the center cylinders do get a tad more air because they are closer the blower outlet. However I have been able to tune around it using dual VE tables. All of the spark plug colors are nice and even now.
I probably will give MSIII a try when it comes out. It is suppose to be sequencial injection. Plus have a 6x6 trim tables for each injector, which sounds pretty cool!
Two things I would do if was going to build another intake manifold. 1st I would probably extend the intake port runners closer to the square inlet area.
2nd I would build a passage from the center of the intake inlet floor around under the manifold and up through to the bypass port of the blower. This should eliminate any air flow changes that may occur when the blower bypass opens/closes. Pretty sure there would be enough room between the bottom of the intake and intake/lifter valley gasket.
Not sure if you can visualize what I'm talking about, but I have it pictured in my head!
Bill


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(6470 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: GT Work Weekend
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: June 20, 2009 12:36AM

Sort of makes sense. I guess this really ought to be on another thread but maybe OK if we keep it short. I think I'm going to use an intercooler core, that helps even out the distribution and I also have a lot less of a height limitation, so what I'm thinking about right now is to extend the runners out past the middle of the intercooler and then leave about a 1-1/2" tall plenum above it and I think that might take care of the distribution issues. The other intake worked well, but it had the core at an angle. Anyway the pressure drop across the core, slight as it is, should be enough to equalize flow through it. That's the current working theory anyway.

Man, I sure wish we were neighbors!

Jim


mowog1
Rick Ingram
Central Illinois
(1523 posts)

Registered:
10/17/2007 09:36PM

Main British Car:
1974.5 MGB/GT 3.9l Rover

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Re: GT Work Weekend
Posted by: mowog1
Date: June 20, 2009 12:54PM

July 17-19 is out for me as I will be working at the pharmacy.

July 24-26 I will be in Auburn, IN for the MGC meet...and in Indy for the Brickyard 400.

I will be out-of-commission for a few weeks beginning August 3rd, as I become a "bionic man" that morning, receiving a new hip.
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