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MECHANIST
Bill LUNBOM

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GT6 with 215 swap questions
Posted by: MECHANIST
Date: April 18, 2008 07:46PM

I did a search to see if I could find info about swapping a 215 into a GT6 but nothing turned up. Before I actually swing the engine transmission unit into the maw of the car, I would like to have some information to ruminate on. The first important item I can think of is the fore-aft position. Ideally the 215 bellhousing would land in the same position as the original. Then there is the question of oil sump clearance, followed by exhaust manifold port position. I'll start with these questions and see where it goes from there.
Bill, the MECHANIST


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Curtis Jacobson
Portland Oregon
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10/12/2007 02:16AM

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71 MGBGT, Buick 215

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Re: GT6 with 215 swap questions
Posted by: Moderator
Date: April 19, 2008 01:14AM

I don't have any information or photos specific to 215 / GT6 conversions for you... but I did just upload another cool Ford V8 powered GT6 to the Triumph photo gallery tonight. Check it out here: Deryle Williams' GT40-powered 1968 GT6


turbospitfire
Max Brewster

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04/25/2008 01:05PM

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1979 Triumph Spitfire Ford 2.3 Liter Turbo

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Re: GT6 with 215 swap questions
Posted by: turbospitfire
Date: May 13, 2008 03:19PM

Bill, there are many Spitfires with this swap out there. The frames are identical, except for rotoflex. GT6 had bigger brakes and stronger spindles but this should not matter as far as the front section of the frame goes. The bonnet gives you additional clearance too. Spitfire and GT6 magazine is a good source. They have a website.

Cheers,
Max Brewster
1979 Spitfire 2.3 turbo Ford


gt6-v8
Martin Flint
UK - England
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05/23/2008 01:05PM

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1971 Triumph GT6 MK2 Rover V8 3500cc (Buick 215)

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Re: GT6 with 215 swap questions
Posted by: gt6-v8
Date: May 23, 2008 01:20PM

Hello, I only just joined the forum, so I could pick brains about advance timings for v8's and noticed your post..

I did a GT6 mk2 (+ in usa) 215 swap and still run the car, still a work in progress, but worth it if you sacrifice certain things.
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MECHANIST
Bill LUNBOM

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Re: GT6 with 215 swap questions
Posted by: MECHANIST
Date: May 23, 2008 01:37PM

I see that your car is righthand drive. Are you a U K resident? You mention sacrifices. Would you care to elaborate a bit? I see tube headers and am curious if that means that you couldn't make stock manifolds work. It looks like that is a Rover engine? What did you use for a radiator? Did you try using the stock radiator ? I haven't progressed to the point of actually setting the engine/transmission in place. I'm curious what unwelcome surprises are in store. What transmission are you using? I will be using a Camaro T5.

MECHANIST


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Curtis Jacobson
Portland Oregon
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71 MGBGT, Buick 215

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Re: GT6 with 215 swap questions
Posted by: Moderator
Date: May 23, 2008 01:52PM

Welcome Martin!

We need to get you set up with a gallery page and "How It Was Done" article. I'm sure there are a LOT of us here who will be curious to know more about your car. (The website had over 3000 visitors yesterday, of one kind or another.) Please have a look here for the template and for tips about photos: [www.britishv8.org]


gt6-v8
Martin Flint
UK - England
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1971 Triumph GT6 MK2 Rover V8 3500cc (Buick 215)

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Re: GT6 with 215 swap questions
Posted by: gt6-v8
Date: May 23, 2008 02:22PM

Hi, yes i'm in UK England, where wet weather tests the rear end all the time :-)

You mention sacrifices. Would you care to elaborate a bit?
Sacrifices have been: such fine tollerences on keeping the stock look as there was not a lot of room under the hood and chassis rails:
1. Solid steel engine/box mounts as 1/8" clearance in places, if the drivetran moves it will knock on chassis.
2. Had to saw off the distributor and make up a ford EDIS-8 / coilpacks and aftermarket 3d Ignition as HT leads stopped hood from closing.
3. SS Tubes are for MGB-GT-V8 which actually touch the chassis in places (again motor can't move due to solid mounts)
I did make manifolds myself originally, TVR style (swept to front and back under oil pan) but this created too much heat a the rad/oil end.
4. the gearbox manual shifter remote is from a Ford Type-9 box as the rover one was too long. it's a home made job, works well, but isnt spring loaded for centering (be careful going into 3rd gear, it's right next to first)

5. Radiator is standard and copes now i redesigned the header layout, and modified advance curve for cooling.
6. Transmission is Rover LT77 same as triumph TR8

Hope that helps a little?

Martin
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V6 Midget
Bill Young
Kansas City, MO
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10/23/2007 09:23AM

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'73 MG Midget V6 , '59 MGA I6 2.8 GM, 4.0 Jeep

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Re: GT6 with 215 swap questions
Posted by: V6 Midget
Date: May 23, 2008 02:48PM

Bill, check out this Spitfire with the same engine. Nice job and everything clears pretty well. [www.britishv8.org]


tycorace
mark thompson

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Re: GT6 with 215 swap questions
Posted by: tycorace
Date: June 01, 2008 03:45PM

rear end and axles and u joints are very week and can be changed very cheeply. We used datsun 240 diff ,and axles. But supra and conquest will also work.
Mark


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Bill LUNBOM

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Re: GT6 with 215 swap questions
Posted by: MECHANIST
Date: June 01, 2008 05:28PM

You are referring to 240 Z I assume. What is involved with swapping these assemblies?


tycorace
mark thompson

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Re: GT6 with 215 swap questions
Posted by: tycorace
Date: June 01, 2008 06:02PM

the 240 z would be my third choice the supra would be first because It is closeer to the triumph set up has a 411 gear set stock and limited slip stock. the conquest is almost exactly the same . The 240 requires a bracket to mount it and need the ratio changed and install a limited slip but in 73-4 we only had the z that work the best.
Mark


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Re: GT6 with 215 swap questions
Posted by: MECHANIST
Date: June 01, 2008 07:37PM

I'm putting together a street car and 411s would probably not be a smart choice, even with the T5 with O D. So if the ratio on a 240 fits my needs, is there any other reason to not consider it? Is the supra a bolt-in? My trans is a 2.95 1st gear, by the way.


tycorace
mark thompson

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Re: GT6 with 215 swap questions
Posted by: tycorace
Date: June 01, 2008 09:47PM

I belive that an auto rear end has a taller gear but not sure what it is . The conquest is allmost a exact copy but I belive it is around 3.8 or 3.6 ? The supra and conquest both bolt in the same way as the triumph irs rear ends. but is around the same size as the tr 4 thru tr6.
Mark


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Bill LUNBOM

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Re: GT6 with 215 swap questions
Posted by: MECHANIST
Date: June 02, 2008 12:25AM

Thank you so much. This information is very welcome and may keep me from making an expensive mistake.


tycorace
mark thompson

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Re: GT6 with 215 swap questions
Posted by: tycorace
Date: June 02, 2008 02:08AM

when you think you hsve all the info some one like bme add's some more. If you get a chance look at porche 944 or audi Trans axle it will surprize you how the weight willneven out.
Mark



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