B-Fast B-Strong William Smith (144 posts) Registered: 10/17/2009 11:28PM Main British Car: Bugeye Bodied Spriget |
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Dave,
Great video , I felt like I went along for the ride with you, I found myself holding tight to my laptop ! A proud moment and it sounded like it was running right this time. Glad you got it all sorted out ! Hope you know someone with a paint booth so it can get the paint job it deserves and get Curtis to add it to the Gallery , find a nice scenic spot and take lots of great pictures , the old gal deserves her glamor shots. Fantastic job Dave ! William |
HealeyRick Rick Neville (490 posts) Registered: 12/19/2007 05:01PM Main British Car: 1963 Austin-Healey 3000 Ford 5.0L |
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Nice, Dave. Congrats!
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B-Fast B-Strong William Smith (144 posts) Registered: 10/17/2009 11:28PM Main British Car: Bugeye Bodied Spriget |
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Hey Dave,
Glad some little kid didn't run out ! On the handling at highway speed problem it may be more the wear on the front end parts than an aerodynamic problem , I would rebuild the front end and get a good alignment first and then see how it handles. Looks like you have it running and stopping good , tightening the suspension should do a world of good and make it even more fun to drive. Worn parts can really make it wander all over the road and at high speeds can even be a little scary ! Any car should go straight as an arrow at 70 with hands off the wheel on a flat straight road, if not something is wrong with it. I would think you should not have aerodynamic problems till well over 100 mph.. I would not spend a dime on paint till I had the suspension problems sorted out, running off in the ditch isn't going to do that new paint much good ! Cheers William |
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Hey William, all the front end piece at new including the springs. It track straight does not shake or shimmy. It just seems to lift and the steering gets really light at 65+. I'm going to replace the front shocks as well, it seems bounce at this speed as well.
PS you can hear this thing a mile away, so I'm hoping the children are taking cover! And you should see the kids on four wheels that race through the neighbor, lol, I'm the one that better not run out in the road, believe you me!!!! |
B-Fast B-Strong William Smith (144 posts) Registered: 10/17/2009 11:28PM Main British Car: Bugeye Bodied Spriget |
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LOL ! Ah living in the country ! I hope I will not have that problem with mine as I am going to put mustang 2 built front end on and coil-over shocks. You know they make those add on shocks for Sprigets, you might try that ??? It looked like it was handling the corners good. I'm going to put mine a little bit nose down and I am sure I will have to have some kind of air dam up front . I'm putting a 160 speedo in it and I want to be able to bury it or it just won't be fun. I had a 280ZX turbo and it would peg the 150 speedo and it got a little light , but then you expect that at 150 but not at 65 ! Well keep out of the road you don't need any of those little knobby tracks on you ! LOL
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jim jim begor brushton ny (31 posts) Registered: 12/30/2009 08:59PM Main British Car: 59 sprite gm 3.1 5 speed |
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your car looks real good I have a 59 sprite with a 3400 and five speed if I get much over 70 it feels light in the front end
I had the front end alighment thats all set but I think the stearing is so tight and quick that it makes it feel squirlley I dont get much wheel spin mine just squats and its gone these cars are a blast to drive with the power again good work jim |
B-Fast B-Strong William Smith (144 posts) Registered: 10/17/2009 11:28PM Main British Car: Bugeye Bodied Spriget |
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Nice looking Bugeye Jim,
That's what worries me the most is how mine will handle at high speeds. Being that I will be running tires 8.5 inches wide on the front and a custom front suspension using Mustang 2 spindles , coil-over shocks and a nice size sway bar, I am hopeful that I can take mine to 150 before it does any floating around, I guess we will see. I want a fast little go cart that will give a Caterham 7 a run for it's money . I am designing a 3 bar rear suspension that's almost like a uneven 4 bar and coil-overs with a few little tricks up my sleeve . The fiberglass front ends have some nice flair to it and I will have to come up with some way to keep air out from under it, should be interesting ! William |
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BAHAHAHAH, 150 mph good luck with that William. I'd suggest you do a wind tunnel simulation and install an ejection seat because 85 felt like 150 so I'm thinking 150 will be like Warp speed!!!
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HealeyRick Rick Neville (490 posts) Registered: 12/19/2007 05:01PM Main British Car: 1963 Austin-Healey 3000 Ford 5.0L |
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150 mph in a Bugeye would be my definition of "Scary Fast"
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cdodgyd Chris Davies Wales, UK (4 posts) Registered: 07/17/2010 03:25AM Main British Car: 1959 AH Sprite, 1971 Mercedes 280se 1.5L Ford in the Sprite, 3L diesel in the Merc. |
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I can vouch that even 100 mph in one is frightening! They're so close to the ground that you really feel the speed and the wheelbase is so short that they become very twitchy. You're going to need some pretty radical suspension and body mods to keep control - I expect you'll need a fair bit of time for development on a race track!
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jim jim begor brushton ny (31 posts) Registered: 12/30/2009 08:59PM Main British Car: 59 sprite gm 3.1 5 speed |
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I took my bugeye out today with my GPS and found out my speedo is twenty mph slow my bit over 70 was a bit over 90
you want to hang on but at legal speed it still a blast to drive jim |
roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
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Headlites = bad air ? Under dumb idea/aero enhancement, how 'bout Opel GT. or Porsche 928 type headlites ?
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BlownMGB-V8 Jim Blackwood 9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042 (6470 posts) Registered: 10/23/2007 12:59PM Main British Car: 1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS |
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Odd as it may seem, those headlights could actually be helping with high speed stability. Looking at the car, the whole thing has the appearance of a lifting body or airfoil shape, which means unless you do something to keep the air out from under the body, the faster air going over the top is going to create a low pressure area and the slower air underneath is going to push upwards on the body, creating lift. The nice curve of the valence compounds the problem. Because the headlights create a boundary layer separation and create turbulence they might actually help some to reduce lift, as might the irregularity of the underside of the car. If you really want to do 150 with that thing you had better be thinking about ground effects.
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LOL Jim, I don't have any aspiration of going 150mph in this thing, that's William's death wish! I just want to be able to cruise at highway speed and have enough handling to get around 100ish when the need arises. I agree the car is a natural wing, I'm going to try a couple different air dam set-ups that a few local era correct vintage racers suggested. Hopefully this will help!
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jim jim begor brushton ny (31 posts) Registered: 12/30/2009 08:59PM Main British Car: 59 sprite gm 3.1 5 speed |
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post some pictures of what your doing I think jims got a point Iv had mine out with out the bonnet latched and about 45-50 the air from under will lift it right up a few inchess the way it closes I did not figger it would lift it
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I will post the mods, I've been told I need to remove the air that gets trapped in the pocket between the body wheel well top plate and the bonnet underside. I can either vent the wheel wells to reduce the pressure by introducing flow, or dam/redirect the air around the pocket creating a low. I'm going to see the mods this guy has done to his track car this weekend and will take some pics.
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jim jim begor brushton ny (31 posts) Registered: 12/30/2009 08:59PM Main British Car: 59 sprite gm 3.1 5 speed |
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Dave I contacted spridgetech and they have a mold to make an air dam for a non flaired mk1 there supposed to send me some pictures when they do I will post that info
jim |