pfordt Patrick Trumbull 1/2 way betwixt Sacramento and Lake Tahoe (6 posts) Registered: 08/27/2009 03:24PM Main British Car: 1957 bn-4 5.7 sbc |
switching from 1/4 to 1/2 elliptics
Not sure if this is best in mgs or healeys so I am cross posting.
Can someone tell me what is involved in swapping from quarter elliptic to semi elliptic springs? I am going to a narrowed rx7 axle so while I am at it I am wondering about trying semi elliptical springs from a donor midget I have to try to get a better ride and maybe be easier to set up. patrick 4age bugeye swap in progress |
Bill Young Bill Young Kansas City, MO (1337 posts) Registered: 10/23/2007 09:23AM Main British Car: '73 MG Midget V6 , '59 MGA I6 2.8 GM, 4.0 Jeep |
Re: switching from 1/4 to 1/2 elliptics
Patrick, the floor pan on the Bugeye doesn't have the spring mounts for the front of the springs so you'd have to fabricate those or get replacement panels from Moss or such. In the rear the floor pan of the trunk area isn't formed for the bolts and those would be difficult to access from inside the rear of the Bugeye anyway. Personally I think that your best option would be to work with the existing spring mounts if they are in good condition and not rusted and go with some type of coil over shock arrangement and a three or four link. I think you'll be much happier in the end as well. Check out Brian Kraus' conversion for his rear end treatment. Very similar to what I'd think would work well in your chassis. [www.britishv8.org]
Jim Begor also did a 4 link with coil overs in his Bugeye and it's well done and works great. |
Moderator Curtis Jacobson Portland Oregon (4577 posts) Registered: 10/12/2007 02:16AM Main British Car: 71 MGBGT, Buick 215 |
Re: switching from 1/4 to 1/2 elliptics
Bill's advice sounds good to me.
Personally, I know next to nothing about the quarter elliptic design or about how one would convert... but the topic also came up briefly a couple weeks ago when I was talking to Craig Chima about racing Spridgets for this article and for another that's coming up about Harry Gentry's Sprite. Harry is lightning quick on quarter elliptics. I asked Craig if he figured Harry was giving up any performance by using the earlier suspension, and his answer was to the point: "Not at all." Now I need to get with Harry and find out if he has any set-up tips he's willing to share. Of course that's all within the context of vintage racing, where modifications have to fall within specific rules and where ride comfort doesn't matter. |
roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
Re: switching from 1/4 to 1/2 elliptics
Patrick,RX 7 rear, as in IRS ? Throw away SLA's and use semi eliptics ? When did RX 7's use non IRS ? Good Luck, roverman.
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Bill Young Bill Young Kansas City, MO (1337 posts) Registered: 10/23/2007 09:23AM Main British Car: '73 MG Midget V6 , '59 MGA I6 2.8 GM, 4.0 Jeep |
Re: switching from 1/4 to 1/2 elliptics
Art, the first and second generation RX7s used a live rear axle, then went to an IRS later on. It's a pretty neat swap into a Midget as they used 13" wheels and disc brakes so it will clear the original size Midget wheels as well. Jim's car pictured above uses an S10 rear but Brian's car uses a first generation RX7 rear.
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