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florianscholz
chris scholz
Iowa
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Main British Car:
1959 BN4 100-6 5.7 V8 LS1 from corvette/camaro and 4L60E

1959 100-6 --LS V8 engine swap
Posted by: florianscholz
Date: December 07, 2014 08:37AM

Greetings from Iowa,

I have a 1959 BN4 100-6 and have decided to restore the car and install a V8---my dream project. It is fairly rust free and I have disassembled the entire car and it is on a dolly getting soda blasted and the dents popped out. There are a couple rust holes on the dog legs of the fenders and that is it. I am selling my tranny, clutch, radiator and overhauled 6 port head Healey engine--all in excellent shape.
I bought an all aluminum LS 5.7 V8 and 4L60-E tranny from a 2000 camaro with 70,000 miles and will have the engine freshened, blasted and clear coated.
I am keeping my Healey rear end and installing 3.54 gears and a Quaife limited slip.
I need advice on the front brakes--I want to convert to discs, and I can buy 3000 series brackets for $300 from another Healey owner, and the hub and spindles from Moss motors. Is this the best route to go?
Where should I buy the headers? The camaro engine comes with aftermarket stainless steel headers that hug fairly tight--I have yet to see the headers in person. I see some folks have used Hedman headers and others have cut and rewelded the headers that came with the V8. Will I have to cut or notch any parts of the Healey frame to fit the headers?
I know the foot boxes will need trimmed. I see most people trim 1.5"-2" on each side. Is this typical?
I should be able to make engine mounts that bolt to the stock healey engine mounts. Correct?
I want it to be cooled correctly, even idling in a parade. Was planning on using a 4 core aluminum radiator with an electric fan. Maybe move the x brace forward. Any advice on the radiator? I know it will also need to clear the steering.
I am very excited about the project and hope to post pictures as it goes together and will plan to be finished by April.
Chris.


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Curtis Jacobson
Portland Oregon
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10/12/2007 02:16AM

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71 MGBGT, Buick 215

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Re: 1959 100-6 --LS V8 engine swap
Posted by: Moderator
Date: December 08, 2014 07:57PM

Welcome to BritishV8! It sounds like you're well on your way.

I don't have any personal experience with big Healeys, but I can give you a general tip about message boards: when you have a whole bunch of questions, it's usually best to spread them over multiple threads.


Jim Stabe
Jim Stabe
San Diego, Ca
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Main British Car:
1966 MGB Roadster 350 LT1 Chevy

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Re: 1959 100-6 --LS V8 engine swap
Posted by: Jim Stabe
Date: December 11, 2014 01:31AM

All your fitment questions will be answered once you get the engine and try to lower it into the engine compartment. When making room for the engine remember that you have to work on it as well so be sure to allow for enough room.


florianscholz
chris scholz
Iowa
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12/05/2014 08:06AM

Main British Car:
1959 BN4 100-6 5.7 V8 LS1 from corvette/camaro and 4L60E

Re: 1959 100-6 --LS V8 engine swap
Posted by: florianscholz
Date: December 12, 2014 08:03AM

Any opinions on which radiator company to use? I am looking for advice on the cooling. Probably needs a 4 core aluminum radiator with electric fan. Would the engine cooling be helped with an added oil cooler? Thanks.


Jim Stabe
Jim Stabe
San Diego, Ca
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1966 MGB Roadster 350 LT1 Chevy

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Re: 1959 100-6 --LS V8 engine swap
Posted by: Jim Stabe
Date: December 12, 2014 10:09AM

Is there any way to fit a radiator with more frontal area? Additional area is vastly preferable to thicker core. The air is heated as it passes through each successive row of tubes so by the time it reaches the last row, it is too hot to do much cooling. The added thickness also restricts airflow further reducing the ability to cool.


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Curtis Jacobson
Portland Oregon
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71 MGBGT, Buick 215

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Re: 1959 100-6 --LS V8 engine swap
Posted by: Moderator
Date: December 12, 2014 11:22AM

I enjoyed working with AFCO. Rather than buying an entirely custom radiator, I picked a popular size and just special-ordered different ports than standard. Very cost effective, and top quality! I chose a dual-pass radiator - where both ports appear to be on the same end but where there's a baffle welded inside the tank so coolant crosses half of the core and then comes back across the other half. Dual-pass radiators provide extra cooling effect without adding the thickness/weight/obstruction of a fourth row. Chose a radiator that doesn't have a pressure cap and instead use a pressurized header tank, mounted higher than the radiator and engine.

Very, very few cars on this website use oil coolers. I think a simpler and better strategy is to focus on airflow. Keeping the radiator thin will help you find room to package a bigger electric fan and a really good fan shroud. Use the forum's search feature (top right corner of the page) to find lots of discussion of fans. (Apparently I'm not alone in preferring junkyard fans over aftermarket fans.) People have discussed various models. You'll also want a shield or ducting so no air bypasses your radiator core.


Scott68B
Scott Costanzo
Columbus, Ohio
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10/25/2007 11:30AM

Main British Car:
1968 MGB GM 5.3 LS4 V8

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Re: 1959 100-6 --LS V8 engine swap
Posted by: Scott68B
Date: December 12, 2014 11:46AM

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Very, very few cars on this website use oil coolers.

Curtis,

This is probably isn't a very common situation for most people but it was interesting during the track day at the Omaha V8 meet that several cars seemed to be experiencing the symptoms of hot oil where their oil pressure started dropping. I can think of at least 3 that experienced this, one was an LS motor. I'm seriously considering adding an oil cooler at some point because of this. It would be interesting to hear the thoughts from some of the guys who when through it.



Jim Stabe
Jim Stabe
San Diego, Ca
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1966 MGB Roadster 350 LT1 Chevy

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Re: 1959 100-6 --LS V8 engine swap
Posted by: Jim Stabe
Date: December 12, 2014 02:28PM

I'm with you Curtis, OEM fans are the way to go. I have a Taurus on my car only because I didn't have enough height to fit a Mk VIII Lincoln fan. The Lincoln is almost 19" diameter and will move 4500 cfm. It does require some heavy wiring and relay, use minimum 10 ga wire and a 70 amp relay as they draw a lot of current. Google them and there is a lot of information available.


tbo
Tim Body
St Thomas Ontario
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1954 Triumph TR2 stock 2 litre

Re: 1959 100-6 --LS V8 engine swap
Posted by: tbo
Date: December 17, 2014 07:55PM

Hi Jim. If you are drawing in 4500 cfm have you made special provision to allow the air to get carried away or does it just go down under the car?Tim


Jim Stabe
Jim Stabe
San Diego, Ca
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1966 MGB Roadster 350 LT1 Chevy

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Re: 1959 100-6 --LS V8 engine swap
Posted by: Jim Stabe
Date: December 17, 2014 10:01PM

I'm not using the Lincoln fan, I have a Taurus fan but it still draws a lot more than the aftermarket fans do. You do need to provide an escape route for the air either through the wheel wells, under the car or out through the top od the hood. Air flows from high pressure to low so you need to locate the areas of low pressure on the car and open up a path for the air to get to them.


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
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10/23/2007 12:59PM

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1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: 1959 100-6 --LS V8 engine swap
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: December 17, 2014 11:00PM

Another thing to consider is what vehicle speed does to your airflow. For instance, a hood raised in the hinge area slightly is no help at speed and could hurt but at idle in traffic it is a very effective way to get hot air out from under the hood. Whether or not to use it depends on when you need it.

Jim


florianscholz
chris scholz
Iowa
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Main British Car:
1959 BN4 100-6 5.7 V8 LS1 from corvette/camaro and 4L60E

Re: 1959 100-6 --LS V8 engine swap
Posted by: florianscholz
Date: December 18, 2014 08:43AM

I am planning on adding the oil cooler and the plan is to place it under the radiator. There are belt driven fans off electric motors that I am exploring. I will install a dual pass aluminum radiator.

I will not be cutting any vents in the hood or fenders. Want to keep the car exterior stock. The 100-6 will look stock from the outside. I will see if there are any other areas for the airflow to escape, but with the small size of the OHV V8, there should be plenty of escape underneath the car.

I wonder if I will need to move the oil filter to a remote location so I can access it easily. We will see once we dry fit the engine. The LS1 is arriving today and will be refreshened and I am using Painless Wiring to hook it up.

I am keeping the stock healey rear end and changing the rear gear to 3.54 and adding the quaife limited slip rear. Also will eventually change the 60 spokes to 72. Tires are 165 and may go to Michelin 195/70/15.

Car is being soda-blasted this week and will keep everyone updated. Thanks for all the advice.


britcars
Phil Ossinger
New Brunswick, Canada
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02/02/2009 07:58PM

Main British Car:
1977 MGB Roadster, Rover 3.5 ADVENTURE BEFORE DEMENTIA!

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Re: 1959 100-6 --LS V8 engine swap
Posted by: britcars
Date: December 27, 2014 09:34PM

Louvers in your fender wells should help as well. It's a low pressure area when moving. I used louvers from old school lockers and welded them in place.
Louver 4.jpg


florianscholz
chris scholz
Iowa
(24 posts)

Registered:
12/05/2014 08:06AM

Main British Car:
1959 BN4 100-6 5.7 V8 LS1 from corvette/camaro and 4L60E

Re: 1959 100-6 --LS V8 engine swap
Posted by: florianscholz
Date: December 30, 2014 06:04AM

Vents in the wheels wells---didn't think about that. Thanks.

Now I am trying to figure out where to buy the conversion kit for the front disc brakes.


HealeyRick
Rick Neville

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12/19/2007 05:01PM

Main British Car:
1963 Austin-Healey 3000 Ford 5.0L

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Re: 1959 100-6 --LS V8 engine swap
Posted by: HealeyRick
Date: December 30, 2014 11:24AM

One of my friends with a HiPo 289 in his Healey had these guys custom build an aluminum radiator for him and is quite happy with it: [www.wizardcooling.com]



florianscholz
chris scholz
Iowa
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Registered:
12/05/2014 08:06AM

Main British Car:
1959 BN4 100-6 5.7 V8 LS1 from corvette/camaro and 4L60E

Re: 1959 100-6 --LS V8 engine swap
Posted by: florianscholz
Date: December 31, 2014 07:48AM

THanks. That link for the aluminum radiator is what I am looking for.

I am really at a standstill for the disc brake conversion. Denis Welch has a conversion kit with brackets and hubs for about $900 american dollars plus shipping from England. Are there any other ways to convert to front discs without spending a fortune? THe two issues would be finding the correct hubs and the brackets.


HealeyRick
Rick Neville

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12/19/2007 05:01PM

Main British Car:
1963 Austin-Healey 3000 Ford 5.0L

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Re: 1959 100-6 --LS V8 engine swap
Posted by: HealeyRick
Date: December 31, 2014 11:06AM

Try contacting these places and see if they have some used disc brake setups: [www.britishcarspecialists.com] [www.healeysurgeons.com] and Hemphill's Healey Haven, Address: 4-B Winters Lane. Baltimore, MD. 21228. Phone: 410 788 2291. . E-mail: bighealey@msn.com (he was selling a bunch of stuff on eBay. don't know if his shop is still open)


florianscholz
chris scholz
Iowa
(24 posts)

Registered:
12/05/2014 08:06AM

Main British Car:
1959 BN4 100-6 5.7 V8 LS1 from corvette/camaro and 4L60E

Re: 1959 100-6 --LS V8 engine swap
Posted by: florianscholz
Date: December 31, 2014 10:03PM

Thanks. I will try these on Friday. It appears the hubs and brackets are the hardest items to locate.

I see they are selling 50 copies of the AC Cobra. Love the polished aluminum bodies for sale.

Happy New Years and thanks for the advice.

Chris


florianscholz
chris scholz
Iowa
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Registered:
12/05/2014 08:06AM

Main British Car:
1959 BN4 100-6 5.7 V8 LS1 from corvette/camaro and 4L60E

Re: 1959 100-6 --LS V8 engine swap
Posted by: florianscholz
Date: January 02, 2015 10:01PM

Update on my LS swap. I am having the wiring harness modified to shut off the two anti theft features from the LS motor. Shutting off the cat o2 sensor and setting it up to run a new fuel pump and electric cooling fan at 185 degrees. Car has been blasted and there are rust pinholes in the doglegs of each quarter panel, the bottom of the doors, a few in the rear trunk floor and the door frame where the hinges bolt to the car. We should have the patch panels welded in and primed in the next 2 wks and will then be dry fitting the engine and new Aluminum radiator. I am sure we will be trimming the foot boxes but hopefully not by much-need space for those size 12 shoes! Still working on the front disc brake conversion. Have a new insert for the Healey rear end--bought a 3.54 rear gear with Quaife limited slip and new seals. Finally, my steering box and idler arm box both leak oil so will have to figure out new seals for those.


HealeyRick
Rick Neville

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Registered:
12/19/2007 05:01PM

Main British Car:
1963 Austin-Healey 3000 Ford 5.0L

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Re: 1959 100-6 --LS V8 engine swap
Posted by: HealeyRick
Date: January 04, 2015 05:24PM

Pics are appreciated, or better still start a project journal, here: [forum.britishv8.org] I don't recall seeing an LS swap in a Healey, you could be the first.
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