roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
Re: Lotus 907/Rover V8 head swap
Nic and clan. Initial build, I envision (2), "L" shaped pcs., profiled to interlock around peripery of deck. No increase of deck and minimal deck machining,(it's weak enough already) ! No monster crank, therefore no need to add deck height. Motor will be wide-enough , with-out. Probably the Rover, flanged, replacement liners. My stg. II Buick heads ,"want" the tractor sleeves.roverman.
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roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
Re: Lotus 907/Rover V8 head swap/Zeus anybody ?
Nic and clan, peripheral deck adapter plate will be machined flush, with minimum clean-up of Rover decks. I now have potential to buy (2)" Zeus", raw cast heads. I need to talk with anyone that has worked on same,(especially flow bench types).It's decision making time for me. Thanks, roverman.
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roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
Re: Lotus 907/Rover V8 head swap/Ecotech ?
Like I need another tangent. "Richard", of WCRCH, claims the ported version flows 425 cfm.! Anybody got bore spacing for same? What if it's 4.25" ? Way wicked Rover ? roverman.
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roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
Re: Lotus 907/ 317 cfm./Rover V8 head swap
How much can a Rover crank stand anyway? I think "somebody" posted a ("400" hp.shot), was workin ? roverman.
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phongshader Justin Brown Ca (63 posts) Registered: 02/19/2010 04:03PM Main British Car: Locost Lotus 7 2.3 Duratec |
Re: Lotus 907/Rover V8 head swap
is anything happening here or was it too much work to make it worth while?
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roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
Re: Lotus 907/Rover V8 head swap? Ask FRED
Handle here is "DiDueColpi". Fred alluded to having done the impossible. No pictures or dyno report, as of yet, but we are "hopeful". Fred ??
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DiDueColpi Fred Key West coast - Canada (1365 posts) Registered: 05/14/2010 03:06AM Main British Car: I really thought that I'd be an action figure by now! |
Re: Lotus 907/Rover V8 head swap
The heads are on the engine and all the cam drives work. The intake looks like it means business, just stalled out on the crank/ cam issue. Home maintenance, trip to Spain and building an ITS Acura and a Soverin Volvo are kinda eating up all the spare time.
Did I mention that I just bought a 82 TR8 in a basket and the clutch is starting to slip on the Esprit? Cheers Fred |
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joe_padavano Joseph Padavano Northern Virginia (157 posts) Registered: 02/15/2010 03:49PM Main British Car: 1962 F-85 Deluxe wagon 215 Olds |
Re: Lotus 907/Rover V8 head swap
I've been following this thread for a while now, and it's certainly a cool idea, but at the risk of being a heretic, why not just get a Northstar and eliminate all the problems?
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mgb260 Jim Nichols Sequim,WA (2463 posts) Registered: 02/29/2008 08:29PM Main British Car: 1973 MGB roadster 260 Ford V8 |
Re: Lotus 907/Rover V8 head swap
I think people here don't want the easy way, but like to make it their own way.That is most of the fun in it. Plus scrounging for unobtanium parts and adapting and making your own parts. Also what if the factory did this or that.
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roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
Re: Lotus 907/Rover V8 head swap
Well put Jim. If we wanted "easy", we'd all build sbc's . That "antique" Lotus 907 head ,makes 257 hp,2.3L gas/carbs, all motor, in road racing. Two comparably prepped, on a Rover, should make for lead-dog status.
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phongshader Justin Brown Ca (63 posts) Registered: 02/19/2010 04:03PM Main British Car: Locost Lotus 7 2.3 Duratec |
Re: Lotus 907/Rover V8 head swap
Has anything happened with this? Any pictures of the progress?
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roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
Re: Lotus 907/Rover V8 head swap
Justin, Fred Key has the gauntlet, on this one. You might "pm" him. Cheers, roverman.
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chimes david chimes Reading, UK (12 posts) Registered: 12/13/2009 08:40AM Main British Car: JaguarXJ8 & XK8 Original GT V8 (just s 2ltr |
Re: Lotus 907/Rover V8 head swap
Why bother, other than the engineering challenge. Drop in a Jaguar AJ8, quad cam, 32 valve 4 ltr, 290bhp/290 torque out of the box. Plenty of them at the breakers!
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roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
Re: Lotus 907/Rover V8 head swap
David and clan, "We don't do this because it's easy, we do it bcause it's hard". Modifying our lbc's is not easy. Many new cars can be bought with ample features, performance, etc. Why bother, indeed ? For better or worse, "some" like the idea of an RV8 based swap. Maybe because of Costello or the factory GT's. We seem to be a close knit group, of strongly independant taste. Cheers, roverman.
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roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
Re: Lotus 907/Rover V8 head swap
WOW, Sept. 2012, how time flies... I consider making (4) modular cams, more of a challenge, than adapting the 907's, to the RV8.. Time will tell. Cheers, roverman.
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roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
Re: Lotus 907/Rover V8 head swap update
I had the good fortune to meet Pete Aardema, last night. Pete and his associate, are top notch, head swappers ! Like 4 valve Porshe heads on a BBC, or Subaru heads, on a Model A block,etc,etc. Pete and crew have been successful at Bonneville, for over 10 years. We discussed at length, the methods of making Lotus 907 heads, work on a Rover. He doesn't think I need a lobotamy, and at least for now, I'll take his word for it. I'll "try" to post pic's, when possible. Onward, roverman.
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roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
Re: Lotus 907/Rover V8 head swap, Update
Modular cams are progressing well. Big question is, "how crooked", after heat treat.Heat treater say's .002" TIR, is not possible. I may need to grind cam journal areas down to 25 mm, for accurate surfaces, suitable for needle bearing support. Plan is to use Honda B16, adjustable cam sprockets,(round tooth).
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roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
Re: Lotus 907/Rover V8 head swap, update 6/11
(4) 907 cams weigh 30.24 lbs. ! I think modular should be 40% less ? Honda B16 sprockets should work by step-turning the 1" spine to 22mm. Next test is to "cryo-split" the 1" needle bearings,(3 center cam journals). Cheers, roverman.
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MGBV8 Carl Floyd Kingsport, TN (4512 posts) Registered: 10/23/2007 11:32PM Main British Car: 1979 MGB Buick 215 |
Re: Lotus 907/Rover V8 head swap
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BlownMGB-V8 Jim Blackwood 9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042 (6470 posts) Registered: 10/23/2007 12:59PM Main British Car: 1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS |
Re: Lotus 907/Rover V8 head swap
Appears to be well financed at least.
Jim |