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hoffbug
Tony Hoffer
Minnesota
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Main British Car:
Olds 215 EFI

Physical differences between Buick 215 and Rover v-8 mini starters?
Posted by: hoffbug
Date: November 14, 2009 12:39PM

Does anyone know the physical differences between a Buick 215 and a Land rover v-8 *
1.9HP denso* mini starter?

They have separate part numbers....


hoffbug
Tony Hoffer
Minnesota
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Olds 215 EFI

Re: Physical differences between Buick 215 and Rover v-8 mini starters?
Posted by: hoffbug
Date: November 14, 2009 07:46PM

OK. Got a reply from Ted Schumacher at TSI

It's not the basic starter, it is the difference between a Buick and a Rover block. Buick block has a smaller hole for starter motor to pass through. So, the Rover starter will not fit into Buick block due to Rover having a larger mounting plate index guide. Ted


NixVegaGT
Nicolas Wiederhold
Minneapolis, MN
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10/16/2007 05:30AM

Main British Car:
'73 Vega GT 4.9L Rover/Buick Stroker

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Re: Physical differences between Buick 215 and Rover v-8 mini starters?
Posted by: NixVegaGT
Date: November 15, 2009 09:21PM

Ok so does that mean those of us who have used a Rover block use a Rover mini starter... OK. Is TSI the best solution for this?
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hoffbug
Tony Hoffer
Minnesota
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Registered:
10/15/2007 05:25PM

Main British Car:
Olds 215 EFI

Re: Physical differences between Buick 215 and Rover v-8 mini starters?
Posted by: hoffbug
Date: November 16, 2009 12:13PM

Waiting for others to chime in.. But It appears as far as the denso starters go you should use the Rover starter with the Rover block...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/16/2009 12:13PM by hoffbug.


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
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10/23/2007 12:59PM

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1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: Physical differences between Buick 215 and Rover v-8 mini starters?
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: November 16, 2009 03:02PM

I believe that is correct, although with the Buick block you can use a spacer ring with the Rover starter. Mini starters are also available on ebay, and from Jamie McClinton at Newport Start-n-Charge, (509) 447-0289


Jim


hoffbug
Tony Hoffer
Minnesota
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Registered:
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Olds 215 EFI

Re: Physical differences between Buick 215 and Rover v-8 mini starters?
Posted by: hoffbug
Date: November 16, 2009 04:43PM

Jim do you know if Jamie is selling 1.6 or 1.9HP models?


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
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1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: Physical differences between Buick 215 and Rover v-8 mini starters?
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: November 16, 2009 11:10PM

I'm not that familiar with them Tony, you'd have to contact him.

Jim



NixVegaGT
Nicolas Wiederhold
Minneapolis, MN
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'73 Vega GT 4.9L Rover/Buick Stroker

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Re: Physical differences between Buick 215 and Rover v-8 mini starters?
Posted by: NixVegaGT
Date: November 17, 2009 01:57PM

It does look a lot smaller than the one I had on my 215. I'm pretty sure that thing weighed more too. Here's a pic of a Rover unit for sale on ebay:

[cgi.ebay.com]


hoffbug
Tony Hoffer
Minnesota
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Registered:
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Main British Car:
Olds 215 EFI

Re: Physical differences between Buick 215 and Rover v-8 mini starters?
Posted by: hoffbug
Date: November 17, 2009 03:50PM

Apparently Denso makes a 1.6HP and A 1.9Hp version....

Britishstarters.com and a place called the driven man sell ones that look like this..

http://ferraris.server273.com/images/mgb%20starter%20pic%20ebay.jpg

The ones being sold by Jamie apparently look like this..

http://www.v8buick.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=142694&d=1246376470


Hard for me to tell If they are the same or not.. Now just to confuse things more My engine will have a 4.6 block. a 4.6 crank. and a Buick 215 flexplate... So do I need a Buick starter drive and gear in the rover starter???


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
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Re: Physical differences between Buick 215 and Rover v-8 mini starters?
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: November 17, 2009 04:03PM

Don't think so. Just the hole size should be the thing.

I know Jamie has a real good reputation over on the Buick board. Many of those guys buy his mini starters to run on their big block built up motors and seem real happy with them. There have been several threads about internal parts details and apparently he uses OEM quality components where suppliers like the chain stores do not and his reliability reflects that. There was one incident where his supplier sent him some bad parts and it took him awhile but he replaced them all which is a good indication of his character. I'd expect his 215/Rover starter to be similar.

Jim


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