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Engine and Transmission Tech

tips, technology, tools and techniques related to vehicle driveline components

NixVegaGT Nicolas Wiederhold Minneapolis, MN (659 posts) Registered: 10/16/2007 05:30AM Main British Car: '73 Vega GT 4.9L Rover/Buick Stroker

Starter solenoid position Posted by: NixVegaGT Date: December 08, 2009 09:17AM Ya know what would be awesome? If somebody told me that Rover has starter solenoids in different locations. I based my header fabrication leaving what I thought was tons of space for the starter. Turns out the solenoid interferes directly with one of my primaries. Anybody got an idea for me so I don't have to scrap my entire right header and start over? Thanks team.

NixVegaGT Nicolas Wiederhold Minneapolis, MN (659 posts) Registered: 10/16/2007 05:30AM Main British Car: '73 Vega GT 4.9L Rover/Buick Stroker

Re: Starter solenoid position Posted by: NixVegaGT Date: December 08, 2009 09:56AM OK here's what I bought: This would work great! Is this the same as the above? [cgi.ebay.com] OR would it work?

ex-tyke Graham Creswick Chatham, Ontario, Canada (1165 posts) Registered: 10/25/2007 11:17AM Main British Car: 1976 MGB Ford 302

Re: Starter solenoid position Posted by: ex-tyke Date: December 08, 2009 03:15PM Nicolas, Assuming that you are fabricating "block hugger" headers (vs through the wheel well) and need the best clearance to the starter/solenoid, you need a starter that has the solenoid on the bottom (like the second ebay photo in your post). If you already have a starter with a top or side mount solenoid, and as an alternative to a new purchase, you might want to contact Dan or Mark at D&D as they have a rework service (at least for BOP aluminum starters) that will reindex the solenoid for clearance.

NixVegaGT Nicolas Wiederhold Minneapolis, MN (659 posts) Registered: 10/16/2007 05:30AM Main British Car: '73 Vega GT 4.9L Rover/Buick Stroker

Re: Starter solenoid position Posted by: NixVegaGT Date: December 08, 2009 05:27PM Sweet. Thanks Graham.

ex-tyke Graham Creswick Chatham, Ontario, Canada (1165 posts) Registered: 10/25/2007 11:17AM Main British Car: 1976 MGB Ford 302

Re: Starter solenoid position Posted by: ex-tyke Date: December 09, 2009 09:36AM Quote: I think I'm seein the solenoid on top in pic.# 2? You could be right Art - another case of optical confusion.........but the bottom line is that Nic's application needs the solenoid on the bottom.

NixVegaGT Nicolas Wiederhold Minneapolis, MN (659 posts) Registered: 10/16/2007 05:30AM Main British Car: '73 Vega GT 4.9L Rover/Buick Stroker

Re: Starter solenoid position Posted by: NixVegaGT Date: December 09, 2009 09:57AM That's true. It could be, since this is a "gear reduction" starter, that it's actually the solenoid that's inline with the gear and that is the motor underneath. Either way, it looks like it'll fit. Definitely more expensive by a long shot but I'm just not in the mood to disassemble these headers again. Thanks for the input, guys.

NixVegaGT Nicolas Wiederhold Minneapolis, MN (659 posts) Registered: 10/16/2007 05:30AM Main British Car: '73 Vega GT 4.9L Rover/Buick Stroker

Re: Starter solenoid position Posted by: NixVegaGT Date: December 09, 2009 11:28AM Ok. I'm willing to look around. You're saying look for an SBC listing? They always get the cheapest stuff

NixVegaGT Nicolas Wiederhold Minneapolis, MN (659 posts) Registered: 10/16/2007 05:30AM Main British Car: '73 Vega GT 4.9L Rover/Buick Stroker

Re: Starter solenoid position Posted by: NixVegaGT Date: December 09, 2009 04:47PM So do we get like a Dodge Dakota gear reduction starter and mill the nose off? or something? They look like they are cast with a nose already. Sorry if that's a stupid question. I'm just trying to wrap my brain around it. Thanks Art. OK so this pic is of a, sort of, base starter. Then the flange is made separately. right? Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/09/2009 04:57PM by NixVegaGT.

NixVegaGT Nicolas Wiederhold Minneapolis, MN (659 posts) Registered: 10/16/2007 05:30AM Main British Car: '73 Vega GT 4.9L Rover/Buick Stroker

Re: Starter solenoid position Posted by: NixVegaGT Date: December 09, 2009 05:00PM Here's another one, I think. This guy make custom gear reduction starters for flathead fords:

NixVegaGT Nicolas Wiederhold Minneapolis, MN (659 posts) Registered: 10/16/2007 05:30AM Main British Car: '73 Vega GT 4.9L Rover/Buick Stroker

Re: Starter solenoid position Posted by: NixVegaGT Date: December 09, 2009 05:14PM Do we deal with a guy like this? [www.alibaba.com]

BlownMGB-V8 Jim Blackwood 9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042 (6470 posts) Registered: 10/23/2007 12:59PM Main British Car: 1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

Re: Starter solenoid position Posted by: BlownMGB-V8 Date: December 09, 2009 06:05PM "Open SESAME"!

NixVegaGT Nicolas Wiederhold Minneapolis, MN (659 posts) Registered: 10/16/2007 05:30AM Main British Car: '73 Vega GT 4.9L Rover/Buick Stroker

Re: Starter solenoid position Posted by: NixVegaGT Date: December 09, 2009 08:34PM LOL! Priceless.

NixVegaGT Nicolas Wiederhold Minneapolis, MN (659 posts) Registered: 10/16/2007 05:30AM Main British Car: '73 Vega GT 4.9L Rover/Buick Stroker

Re: Starter solenoid position Posted by: NixVegaGT Date: December 11, 2009 11:05AM Do you mean a Rover one? I'm in.

NixVegaGT Nicolas Wiederhold Minneapolis, MN (659 posts) Registered: 10/16/2007 05:30AM Main British Car: '73 Vega GT 4.9L Rover/Buick Stroker

Re: Starter solenoid position Posted by: NixVegaGT Date: December 11, 2009 02:40PM Yeah, sorry Art. My post was totally confusing. I was linkin' round with my head cut off at that moment. That is actually a custom starter a guy makes for a flathead engine. Here's a pic of the Dakota. I don't think it's the same base unit. That's been the tough part, finding the right base unit... I figure we should look for a different one… We gotta figure out what base starter these guys are using. It's being adapted for a bunch of different cars. Here's some pix. They are using some base unit or they are making the whole gear case too. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/11/2009 02:55PM by NixVegaGT.

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