bberg Bob Berg Powell Ohio (3 posts) Registered: 03/15/2012 09:17AM Main British Car: 1980 TR-8 Rover v8 4.6L MCT Costcast block-Wildcat intake |
Intake Manifold-Thermostat Housing ...help
I have a wildcat spider intake manifold I purchased from Ian Richardson at Wildcat Engineering back in 2006 and now want to use on my triumph Tr-8 with 4.6L engine swapping out the edelbrock.....I never purchased the thermostat housing when I bought it and need any help with where I can find one....I called Ian and he doesn't have any because there were to many options-he also said he is retiring now passing the business on to a colleague...the manifold is similar to the wilpower one available in australia..
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roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
Re: Intake Manifold-Thermostat Housing ...help
Bob, Good luck with the "colleague". Have you checked the manifold for fit ? Mine would not fit any rover or sbb. "Maybe" a rover 4.4L .(aussie) ? I would check Offy remote houusing. Good Luck, roverman.
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BlownMGB-V8 Jim Blackwood 9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042 (6468 posts) Registered: 10/23/2007 12:59PM Main British Car: 1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS |
Re: Intake Manifold-Thermostat Housing ...help
Art, what's the deck height difference between the 4.4 (P76) and the SBB 300?
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roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
Re: Intake Manifold-Thermostat Housing ...help
Jim and clan. Good question, it's here in our forum-somewhere ? Dan Jones sold mainifold to Oz ? Cheers, roverman.
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minorv8 Jukka Harkola (268 posts) Registered: 04/08/2009 06:50AM Main British Car: Morris Minor Rover V8 |
Re: Intake Manifold-Thermostat Housing ...help
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BlownMGB-V8 Jim Blackwood 9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042 (6468 posts) Registered: 10/23/2007 12:59PM Main British Car: 1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS |
Re: Intake Manifold-Thermostat Housing ...help
I think a SBC thermostat neck might work.
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Bill Young Bill Young Kansas City, MO (1337 posts) Registered: 10/23/2007 09:23AM Main British Car: '73 MG Midget V6 , '59 MGA I6 2.8 GM, 4.0 Jeep |
Re: Intake Manifold-Thermostat Housing ...help
Making an adaptor would be relatively simple unless hood clearance is a big problem. A piece of 1/2" aluminum plate drilled to both patterns and then countersunk for the lower pattern and you could bolt on any outlet you wanted to match the hose configuration you need. I'd recommend small block Chevy as there are literally hundereds of thermostat housings built for that engine.
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bberg Bob Berg Powell Ohio (3 posts) Registered: 03/15/2012 09:17AM Main British Car: 1980 TR-8 Rover v8 4.6L MCT Costcast block-Wildcat intake |
Re: Intake Manifold-Thermostat Housing ...help
Thanks for the feedback.....I know that Ian Richardson made two different wildcat spider manifolds-one to fit standard rover v8 heads and the other one that fits his stage 1 & 2 heads which are different.I also talked to the owner of wilpower in austraila and he said he makes all the manifolds and the wildcat spider for Ian as private label -go figure... There is a kilkenny castings water outlet part # W076 that fits the wildcat manifold but it turns toward the distributor similar to Jukka's picture-available in austraila for about $30-I believe std rov v8.I have them looking at matching another housing as well because that manufacture hundreds of them. I did some digging and found a fel pro gasket part # 35097 at advance auto parts that is an exact match for the rover v8 bolt pattern-70mm center bolt hole to bolt hole ....hmmmmm.....says its for ford british, toyota, etc....I checked housings for a ford 4.6L engine and found looking at pictures that there are housings that are 90 degree and straight on....Im in columbus Ohio so I went to jegs store and matched a mr gasket part # 2664 ford housing $12 (lots of options there) that is 69mm hole spacing and can work-little hole widening. I went to ford dealer and found a 2000 ford crown victoria with 4.6l engine housing (motorcraft #RH44) that is straight 90 degree with nipple bleed provision on top and also a 2000 mustang 4.6L sohc water housing 90 deg straight (motorcraft #RH49) that will also work...the motorcraft has flange on the bottom (1/16 inch) where it fits into a slot that has to be taken off but it fits. And my standard TR8 housing from the original manifold also works but the hose is directly at the distributor. I will have the manifold/housing alum coated so I dont want any chrome stuff......
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hoffbug Tony Hoffer Minnesota (323 posts) Registered: 10/15/2007 05:25PM Main British Car: Olds 215 EFI |
Re: Intake Manifold-Thermostat Housing ...help
Dredging up an old one... I'm working on the Astre again and am trying to figure out how to run hoses to the heater core with the Willpower intake. . The return line is on the water pump but there is no provision for a supply line off of the front water crossover where it should be. Can you Tee off of the bypass hose somehow?
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hoffbug Tony Hoffer Minnesota (323 posts) Registered: 10/15/2007 05:25PM Main British Car: Olds 215 EFI |
Re: Intake Manifold-Thermostat Housing ...help
There is also a tapped hole at the drivers side rear of the manifold.. what would this be used for?
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minorv8 Jukka Harkola (268 posts) Registered: 04/08/2009 06:50AM Main British Car: Morris Minor Rover V8 |
Re: Intake Manifold-Thermostat Housing ...help
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hoffbug Tony Hoffer Minnesota (323 posts) Registered: 10/15/2007 05:25PM Main British Car: Olds 215 EFI |
Re: Intake Manifold-Thermostat Housing ...help
Thanks Jukka
So you are essentially using the back port of the manifold through the heater core and to the water pump bypass port and using the heater core as the part of the bypass? On the stock GM engine the water flowed from the front water ports in the heads through a cavity underneath the carburetor and circle back around to the front on the manifold and exited out of the vertical thermostat housing in the front. Have you had any cooling issues and does the heater core provide enough Heat? On my wullpower intake the front thermostat housing crossover has a port drilled for the bypass. You can also see the modifications I had to do to my Kilkenny castings WO58 thermostat housing to get it so it would not Point towards the distributor. |
mgb260 Jim Nichols Sequim,WA (2461 posts) Registered: 02/29/2008 08:29PM Main British Car: 1973 MGB roadster 260 Ford V8 |
Re: Intake Manifold-Thermostat Housing ...help
You could splice one of these in each radiator hose for heater connections:
[www.speedwaymotors.com] |
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minorv8 Jukka Harkola (268 posts) Registered: 04/08/2009 06:50AM Main British Car: Morris Minor Rover V8 |
Re: Intake Manifold-Thermostat Housing ...help
I´ve since gone the EFI route but yes it did work and provided enough heat to the heater core. The only cooling issue was my own fault. My radiator is lower than the engine, expansion tank is higher than the engine. Due to the top hose route I had an air pocket there and had fitted an air bleed connection. I ran a hose from the connection to the expansion tank. Any air would be removed. I thought that when I fitted this manifold I removed the air bleed connection from the top hose. No longer needed... WRONG ! The very test drive showed me wrong big time. So, back to garage and welded a connection back. The expansion tank is behind the engine and you can just about see a hose that has been plugged with a bolt. That is the other end of the venting line.
I have drilled a couple of holes in the thermostat so there is always some by-pass. This is the current EFi spec. You can see the venting line running from the top hose to the tank (top passenger side). There is another hose running from the radiator to the expansion tank. |
roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
Re: Intake Manifold-Thermostat Housing ...help
Jukka, have you noticed the steering get's "very light", when you take-off ?
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hoffbug Tony Hoffer Minnesota (323 posts) Registered: 10/15/2007 05:25PM Main British Car: Olds 215 EFI |
Re: Intake Manifold-Thermostat Housing ...help
Art..You have any idea on what that tapped hole is for on the top of the water pump I have pictured above ?
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roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
Re: Intake Manifold-Thermostat Housing ...help
Air bleed, cold side temp sender ? Forum stimulus ?
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MGBV8 Carl Floyd Kingsport, TN (4511 posts) Registered: 10/23/2007 11:32PM Main British Car: 1979 MGB Buick 215 |
Re: Intake Manifold-Thermostat Housing ...help
No idea. That hole is plugged on my Buick 300 water pump. Tony, as is all the others that I have seen.
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