Anyone tried a 4/71 blower on a RV8 4.6 engine??
As per the title!
Any comments?? Regards Perry |
roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
Re: Anyone tried a 4/71 blower on a RV8 4.6 engine??
Perry, Close "roots", but no dyno time. How much boost ? Hard part will be, mounting on what intake manifold ? I went with 6V-71 because: a, $200 new b, "Dyers' Blowers" makes an adapter casting that fits/welds onto Offy single plane, int. man.ALL diesel blowers MUST be modified for gas/alcohol use, and the much higher rpm., they will see. "Superchargers USA", prepped mine, and claim it will make 20 psi all day, on 290" Rover. Good Luck, roverman.
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Re: Anyone tried a 4/71 blower on a RV8 4.6 engine??
The 4/71 build is underway. This is a mock up on a spare engine.
I only intend to start at around 8psi of boost while I figure out how this thing will behave. Once it is settled in on the engine I'll get it on the dyno for basic testing. Ideally I want the blower to make around 120hp extra. Then I can start adding nitrous for some charge cooling and a little extra power :) |
roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
Re: Anyone tried a 4/71 blower on a RV8 4.6 engine??
Perry, You bought a BDS manifold to fit ? roverman.
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BlownMGB-V8 Jim Blackwood 9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042 (6470 posts) Registered: 10/23/2007 12:59PM Main British Car: 1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS |
Re: Anyone tried a 4/71 blower on a RV8 4.6 engine??
Is that an iron block by chance?
JB |
Re: Anyone tried a 4/71 blower on a RV8 4.6 engine??
Perry,
For what you are looking at about 15% underdrive will get the job done and will make around 50% more power than N/A. Blowers and Nitrous are a good mix due to the intercooling effect of the nitrous. Buy the Pat Ganahl book and pay attention to the blower clearances and It will last a lifetime on that motor. For reference with 16 psi on a 3.5 we make around 400 hp on methanol. Alan |
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Re: Anyone tried a 4/71 blower on a RV8 4.6 engine??
Its a BDS manifold and the trail fit tonight looks ok :)
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BlownMGB-V8 Jim Blackwood 9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042 (6470 posts) Registered: 10/23/2007 12:59PM Main British Car: 1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS |
Re: Anyone tried a 4/71 blower on a RV8 4.6 engine??
That's pretty cool Perry. I ran 16+ psi through an intercooler on a 215 and it made just gobs of power. But I was running it on standard premium with stock cast pistons and got a bit of nibbling around the edge of one piston. That was with an Eaton M90 blower and about 2:1 overdrive. I don't know exactly how your 4/71 compares... 284 cu.in. displacement I guess, which should be about right for the motor, it's obviously a good bit bigger than the Eaton but I was trying to keep it somewhat compact.
Anyway, I think you're really going to like that engine. It's great that a few of us have decided to go down the blower path and I think we should stick together. Bill Jacobson has a very nice build, very techy with his engine management package and individual egt's. I like intercoolers a lot and hope to have my new engine running by mid to late summer. It'll be kinda special. JB |
Re: Anyone tried a 4/71 blower on a RV8 4.6 engine??
Hi Jim!
Thanks for the support. Here she is on the trailer this evening ready for testing tomorrow and Saturday :) |
BlownMGB-V8 Jim Blackwood 9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042 (6470 posts) Registered: 10/23/2007 12:59PM Main British Car: 1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS |
Re: Anyone tried a 4/71 blower on a RV8 4.6 engine??
Really looks good Perry. Can't wait to see the results!
JB |
MG four six eight Bill Jacobson Wa state (325 posts) Registered: 10/23/2007 02:15AM Main British Car: 73 MGB Buick 215, Eaton/GM supercharger |
Re: Anyone tried a 4/71 blower on a RV8 4.6 engine??
Nice! :-)
Bill |
Re: Anyone tried a 4/71 blower on a RV8 4.6 engine??
Hi guys!!
I'm very happy with the results so far :) I'm only running 7psi of boost and she did very well once I learned how to get her off the line. It still felt very lazy though?? She ran 11.8's on the 1/4 mile with this setup. So I'm happy as its only 1.2 seconds slower than my old 300hp of nitrous setup. Although i now think my th350 is slipping as I was crossing the finish line at only 117mph at 5500 rpm. I used to cross the line on nos at 5200 rpm at 127mph. This is a real problem I think as I did have trouble finding drive and the manual shifts were very lazy?? Bu this old 350 gearbox has been abused for 6 years now so I guess it has a right to complain huh?? I have peaked this stock gearbox on the dyno at 402 bhp @ 540 ft/lbs on a 300 shot of gas. And its had two years of 1/4 mile runs on that setup, so about 80 passes on the strip. I do have a spare th350 with transbrake that I got on ebay. And it is supposed to be a refurbished unit... Time will tell I guess ... Here she is waiting to stage for a no burnout test pass. And here she is doing a test run againt a friend of mine in his Cortina who is running under par from his usual 8.8 passes while testing a new fuel system. [www.youtube.com] |
Re: Anyone tried a 4/71 blower on a RV8 4.6 engine??
Thanks Curtis :)
I'm happy with the whole concept as well. And I do like the general stance of the car now.. I just need to get back into the good numbers on track now to go with the looks :) Regards Perry |
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Re: Anyone tried a 4/71 blower on a RV8 4.6 engine??
Hi Carl!
Do you think a glide will be better?? Do you have one?? I'll consider any upgrade thats makes it better :) Today I'm adding the direct port injectors so I can spray under the blower with a small shot of gas. |
roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
Re: Anyone tried a 4/71 blower on a RV8 4.6 engine??
Perry, you"might" want to consider a C4. If you shop around, you'll find there's some very serius drag cars running them. Lower first gear than a glide' and less drag than a turbo 350. I like the separate BH. of the C4. Good Luck, roverman.
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mgb260 Jim Nichols Sequim,WA (2465 posts) Registered: 02/29/2008 08:29PM Main British Car: 1973 MGB roadster 260 Ford V8 |
Re: Anyone tried a 4/71 blower on a RV8 4.6 engine??
Art, I agree with you and Carl. Both are the best for racing with the edge going to Powerglide because of only one shift. Also C4 with pan dipstick has better internals than case filled. Summit and Jeg's have parts for both. Powerglide can be cut off and use bell that mounts to front pump.Kennedy used to have an adapter for Rover to 64 and later GM bell. You can get adapter plates and bells from GM to C4 also. Compare costs.
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BlownMGB-V8 Jim Blackwood 9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042 (6470 posts) Registered: 10/23/2007 12:59PM Main British Car: 1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS |
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Perry, if you're not aware, everything used in a drag racing powerglide is available from aftermarket suppliers like Summit. Various cases, all the internals, valve bodies, vastly beefed up parts, etc. Long history and tons of aftermarket support.
JB |