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spridget
bill green
Maine
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03/22/2008 01:29PM

Main British Car:
2 1980 TR8, 2 Bugeye Sprite TR8 3.5 and 5.0, Sprite 1098 and ?

Buick 300 automatic
Posted by: spridget
Date: March 18, 2012 11:14AM

I have a 61 Buick 215/3.5 and a 64 buick 2 spd automatic from a 300. Will they work together? If not can they be made to?
Thanks Bill


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(3487 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: Buick 300 automatic
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: March 18, 2012 11:55AM

The bellhousings are different so they will not bolt up. The 2 speed is a Powerglide and some powerglides were made with a removable bellhousing. I don't recall what tranny Buick used in the '62 Special.

My recommendation is that you consider using the '64 engine if you can get it. That gives you many more transmission options including the 2004r OD 4 speed and the TH350. Plus it is a better engine.

Jim


roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
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04/24/2009 11:02AM

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74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: Buick 300 automatic and beyond.
Posted by: roverman
Date: March 18, 2012 12:40PM

Bill, If your trans is a 64', it will be a" super turbine 300", meaning a switch pitch convertor. Precious little will interchange with the Chevrolet powerglide. If your install is a sports car, more than (2) speeds is advisable. The Borg Warner 3 speed auto, as used in Rover cars, is a direct fit. Using the detachable BW bell housing opens up other auto trans options, with modifications. Ford C4 and Aisian-Warner 3040L is a 3 speed od. with lock-up convertor. I suggest the search feature of this forum. Good Luck, roverman.


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(3487 posts)

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10/23/2007 12:59PM

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1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: Buick 300 automatic
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: March 18, 2012 01:28PM

I think Art is right about the SP300 but isn't that a 3 speed? Not sure what was used behind the 215.

Jim


roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
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74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: Buick 300 automatic, 2 speed
Posted by: roverman
Date: March 18, 2012 01:59PM

Jim and clan, just "seems" like more than a 2 speed, because of switch-pitch stator convertor. This feature is still going strong in muscle car builds, using B.O.P. turbo 400 trans. Handles big hp/torque and converter changes 1,000+ rpm. , with the "switch". The 215 Buick used a "baby Dynaflow", 2 speed auto , (5) element/Dual Path,air cooled torque convertor. This readily exlains the "elephant ears" on the rear of Buick and Olds 215"s. These ports are open on Buicks, to exhaust heated air from the air cooled,(aluminum) convertor. Onward, roverman.



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spridget
bill green
Maine
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2 1980 TR8, 2 Bugeye Sprite TR8 3.5 and 5.0, Sprite 1098 and ?

Re: Buick 300 automatic
Posted by: spridget
Date: March 18, 2012 03:09PM

Thanks for the responses. I thought the transmission would be a 3spd but i could not find a listing for anything but a 2spd in the 64 Special. I compared my trans to pictures of powerglide transmissions of that era and they look the similar other than the bellhousing. The bellhousing/transmission is one peice. I agree some other transmission would be better but a friend wants the combo for a street rod and i had no idea if it was possible to mate the two together. Could one construct an adapter plate to join the two? I think the 300 crankshaft is slightly more than 1/2 inch longer than the 215 crankshaft so adding the adapter plate could offset that difference? Does that make sense?
Bill


roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
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74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: Buick 300 automatic, why ?
Posted by: roverman
Date: March 18, 2012 04:37PM

Bil, IMHO, does not make sense. Obsolete trans, near obsolete engine. This means difficult to find parts for trans. Better engines and transmissions are easy to find and a better value. roverman.



mgb260
Jim Nichols
Sequim,WA
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02/29/2008 08:29PM

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1973 MGB roadster 260 Ford V8

Re: Buick 300 automatic
Posted by: mgb260
Date: March 18, 2012 06:50PM

Kennedy makes an adapter for 215/Rover to GM newer trans. 200R4 or TH700R would be much better.


trailboss05
bob jones

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Re: Buick 300 automatic
Posted by: trailboss05
Date: March 19, 2012 11:29PM

I have a 1965 Buick 300 ci, 2 barrel with the SP transmission forsale, I recently removed from my 64 Buick Special if anyone is looking. It is complete from oil pan to air cleaner with starter, alternator, exhaust manifolds and I removed it in January this year. It ran great, no smoke, no noises but I had a 64 motor built for the restoration of the car. Apparently the story goes, the dealer changed the motor in the car in 1965 due to some issues with the orginal 64 motor. Let me know if u are interested.sorry all. I'm located in Ontario Canada. I can assist with crating and preparing it for shipping. Shipping charges are the purchaser's responsibility. I'm offering the engine complete for $450.00 or offers, and the transmission for $250.00 but can offer a deal at $600.00 for both the tranny, torque converter and the engine. PM me for ny more information. Thanks for looking.



buick motor.jpg



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BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(3487 posts)

Registered:
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1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: Buick 300 automatic
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: March 20, 2012 08:00AM

That would be a good start, and the heads and intake could always be replaced with aluminum ones later. Where are you located?

Jim


trailboss05
bob jones

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Re: Buick 300 automatic
Posted by: trailboss05
Date: March 20, 2012 03:00PM

sorry all. I'm located in Ontario Canada. I can assist with crating and preparing it for shipping. Shipping charges are the purchaser's responsibility. I'm offering the engine complete for $450.00 or offers, and the transmission for $250.00 but can offer a deal at $600.00 for both the tranny, torque converter and the engine. PM me for ny more information. If it helps a perspective buyer of the engine, I am going to Carlisle PA , just outside of Harrisburg PA, April 25 for two days and may be able to transport the "paid" engine or transmission there, for someone to pick it up there.


Thanks for looking.



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crashbash
david bash
st. charles
(193 posts)

Registered:
01/28/2008 10:53AM

Main British Car:
1979 MGB Rdst V8 project, 1968 MGC GT, 1969 MGB Rd olds 215

Re: Buick 300 automatic
Posted by: crashbash
Date: March 20, 2012 05:48PM

Wish I could remember where the land fill is I dumped the 64 300 block at. At least I got the heads and crank!


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