roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
Using a starter for reverse movement of car
I will be using a Lenco 2 speed(forward only). I need a clever way to use a gear reduction starter, for reverse movement of the car, at drags/etc., while engine is running. I prefer at front end of driveshaft. Perhaps a small ring gear mounted on front yoke ? Anybody ? Thanks, roverman.
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flitner John Fenner Miami Fl (168 posts) Registered: 03/11/2010 10:58AM Main British Car: 1972 MGB 350 CHEVY |
Re: Using a starter for reverse movement of car
With the need of a good size ring gear, wouldn't that take up a bit of tunnel, not a bad idea but, what does a reverse unit run for a Lenco?
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DiDueColpi Fred Key West coast - Canada (1366 posts) Registered: 05/14/2010 03:06AM Main British Car: I really thought that I'd be an action figure by now! |
Re: Using a starter for reverse movement of car
Just to mess with you Art,
What about a hydrostatic drive? Has reverse and infinite gear ratios. You can toss the entire driveline including the diffy to save weight. Lets you run a drive motor to all 4 wheels if you want to. As a matter of fact what about a hybrid of sorts? The engine would run an inverter style generator and you could run traction motors at all 4 wheels. Packaging would be easy, suspension would be simple. The torque advantage of the electric motors would get you out of the hole like a bullet and the engine can run at it's torque peak for the whole run. It's just crazy enough to work. Cheers Fred |
roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
Re: Using a starter for reverse movement of car
"Hydrostatic Drive,,,Robin, why didn't you inform me of this" ? How about go with the flow, with Dynaflow ? Why stop there?, why not a hot air motor, hmmmm, where to find hot air ??? Backward , roverman.
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HealeyRick Rick Neville (490 posts) Registered: 12/19/2007 05:01PM Main British Car: 1963 Austin-Healey 3000 Ford 5.0L |
Re: Using a starter for reverse movement of car
I'd use a flux capacitor to put the car back in time to where it was before it went forward. You might check some of the LoCost bike engined car forums for ideas. These guys are always looking for a way to go backwards.
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roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
Re: Using a starter for reverse movement of car
"That" be a webbsite ? I could cut a hole in the floor, and "Bed Rock It", that's pretty far back.Waittaminutt, This car has Pedals...why not pedal backwards ? Are we thare yet ?Oh wait... Quaffe makes a reverser for a mere $1,500. Maybe I should have titled: "Backwards On A Budget"
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roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
Re: Using a starter for reverse movement of car
"With a good size ring gear", what might that be ? Have we ever had a car stall, and used the starter, to get out of the way ? I have, it was quite slow-BUT, it was also cranking the engine + the car ! I suspect taking the engine load out of the equation, will reduce starter load dramatically ? One person, can push an lbc, and we are not 1 HP. Onward, forward and reverse, roverman.
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BlownMGB-V8 Jim Blackwood 9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042 (6470 posts) Registered: 10/23/2007 12:59PM Main British Car: 1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS |
Re: Using a starter for reverse movement of car
I know, put the starter on a lever arm so it drops down and engages the earth. Gear ratio, 3/4": diameter of the earth. Crawling,
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roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
Re: Using a starter for reverse movement of car
One "positive" thing from this thread, at least "Sponh" has posted a picture, of my latest aquisition/wrong color. Bass-akwards, roverman.
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Re: Using a starter for reverse movement of car
Honda Goldwing motorcycles use this for backing up. You raise a lever then press the starter button. You can use it with the engine running in neutral, makes backing up a 1200lb loaded motorcycle a breeze.
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Re: Using a starter for reverse movement of car
When I was drag racing years ago the alcohol dragsters and funny cars used a 2 speed Lenco with a seperate reverser. The fuel cars are direct drive and they also have a reverser. I think it is a dogging type gear because I have seen them really jerking to get it engaged.
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