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roverman
Art Gertz
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Using a starter for reverse movement of car
Posted by: roverman
Date: March 07, 2013 06:37PM

I will be using a Lenco 2 speed(forward only). I need a clever way to use a gear reduction starter, for reverse movement of the car, at drags/etc., while engine is running. I prefer at front end of driveshaft. Perhaps a small ring gear mounted on front yoke ? Anybody ? Thanks, roverman.


flitner
John Fenner
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Re: Using a starter for reverse movement of car
Posted by: flitner
Date: March 07, 2013 10:20PM

With the need of a good size ring gear, wouldn't that take up a bit of tunnel, not a bad idea but, what does a reverse unit run for a Lenco?
I really dig your way of thinking!


DiDueColpi
Fred Key
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Re: Using a starter for reverse movement of car
Posted by: DiDueColpi
Date: March 08, 2013 03:43AM

Just to mess with you Art,
What about a hydrostatic drive? Has reverse and infinite gear ratios.
You can toss the entire driveline including the diffy to save weight.
Lets you run a drive motor to all 4 wheels if you want to.
As a matter of fact what about a hybrid of sorts?
The engine would run an inverter style generator and you could run traction motors at all 4 wheels. Packaging would be easy, suspension would be simple. The torque advantage of the electric motors would get you out of the hole like a bullet and the engine can run at it's torque peak for the whole run.
It's just crazy enough to work.
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roverman
Art Gertz
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Re: Using a starter for reverse movement of car
Posted by: roverman
Date: March 08, 2013 11:12AM

"Hydrostatic Drive,,,Robin, why didn't you inform me of this" ? How about go with the flow, with Dynaflow ? Why stop there?, why not a hot air motor, hmmmm, where to find hot air ??? Backward , roverman.


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Re: Using a starter for reverse movement of car
Posted by: HealeyRick
Date: March 08, 2013 11:41AM

I'd use a flux capacitor to put the car back in time to where it was before it went forward. You might check some of the LoCost bike engined car forums for ideas. These guys are always looking for a way to go backwards.


roverman
Art Gertz
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Re: Using a starter for reverse movement of car
Posted by: roverman
Date: March 08, 2013 12:35PM

"That" be a webbsite ? I could cut a hole in the floor, and "Bed Rock It", that's pretty far back.Waittaminutt, This car has Pedals...why not pedal backwards ? Are we thare yet ?Oh wait... Quaffe makes a reverser for a mere $1,500. Maybe I should have titled: "Backwards On A Budget"



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/08/2013 04:09PM by roverman.


roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
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Re: Using a starter for reverse movement of car
Posted by: roverman
Date: March 09, 2013 12:18PM

"With a good size ring gear", what might that be ? Have we ever had a car stall, and used the starter, to get out of the way ? I have, it was quite slow-BUT, it was also cranking the engine + the car ! I suspect taking the engine load out of the equation, will reduce starter load dramatically ? One person, can push an lbc, and we are not 1 HP. Onward, forward and reverse, roverman.



BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
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Re: Using a starter for reverse movement of car
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: March 09, 2013 01:03PM

I know, put the starter on a lever arm so it drops down and engages the earth. Gear ratio, 3/4": diameter of the earth. Crawling,

Jim


roverman
Art Gertz
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Re: Using a starter for reverse movement of car
Posted by: roverman
Date: March 09, 2013 02:15PM

One "positive" thing from this thread, at least "Sponh" has posted a picture, of my latest aquisition/wrong color. Bass-akwards, roverman.



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Re: Using a starter for reverse movement of car
Posted by: rsdgeorge
Date: March 24, 2013 09:12AM

Honda Goldwing motorcycles use this for backing up. You raise a lever then press the starter button. You can use it with the engine running in neutral, makes backing up a 1200lb loaded motorcycle a breeze.


roverman
Art Gertz
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Re: Using a starter for reverse movement of car
Posted by: roverman
Date: March 24, 2013 02:26PM

Thanks Rocky. This I can use ! roverman.
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Re: Using a starter for reverse movement of car
Posted by: rsdgeorge
Date: March 29, 2013 07:10PM

When I was drag racing years ago the alcohol dragsters and funny cars used a 2 speed Lenco with a seperate reverser. The fuel cars are direct drive and they also have a reverser. I think it is a dogging type gear because I have seen them really jerking to get it engaged.


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