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roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
(3061 posts)

Registered:
04/24/2009 11:02AM

Main British Car:
74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: New guy
Posted by: roverman
Date: May 16, 2018 07:39PM

I suspect your Hilborn "butterflys", measure 1.8" dia. ? If so, same as mine. Mine has Hilborn pump and water pump driven, direct by cam. I was at Hilborn, in Laguna Niguel, when they were building the "last" shipment of (50), to Azland. GM,Buick and Olds, did some real odd-ball motors/parts for the Indy efforts. Unless you're a quite skilled corner burner/etc., you may find some challenges with Hilborns, on the street,(loading-up on low speeds). Story I was told, was use a excess fuel return tank, clos as possible to engine bay, (reduce load-up). Looks like a handful and fun. Good Luck, roverman.


Young olds
roger parkey
Washington state
(74 posts)

Registered:
05/02/2018 07:07PM

Main British Car:
Opel 1900 sport coupe 1975 Oldsmobile 215

Re: New guy
Posted by: Young olds
Date: May 31, 2018 09:29PM

Is there a timing belt set up available for these engines( instead of a chain)?


Young olds
roger parkey
Washington state
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Opel 1900 sport coupe 1975 Oldsmobile 215

Re: New guy
Posted by: Young olds
Date: June 17, 2018 06:29PM

Had the engine running today, plan was to get it warm and full of water so I can set the fan controller. It was going well at first, nice oil pressure, steady idle, etc. then I noticed I was putting more water in then the engine should hold. Checked the oil and there is water in it, hopefully I shut it off before any bearing damage but Iím wondering if I have bad head gasket or something else. The block had a crack on the outside that leaked water, wondering if there is a crack inside.


Young olds
roger parkey
Washington state
(74 posts)

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05/02/2018 07:07PM

Main British Car:
Opel 1900 sport coupe 1975 Oldsmobile 215

Re: New guy
Posted by: Young olds
Date: June 18, 2018 12:55AM

I picked up a rover 4.2 hoping to only use the shortblock. Will all the parts from my 3.5 bolt on? I know a ton of parts interchange but am unsure about the flywheel. I literally want to only use the bare block and rotating assembly and swap the rest from my 215.



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MGBV8
Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN
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10/23/2007 11:32PM

Main British Car:
1979 MGB, Buick 215

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Re: New guy
Posted by: MGBV8
Date: June 18, 2018 10:33AM

Quote:
Is there a timing belt set up available for these engines( instead of a chain)?

Like a Jessel Belt Drive? They are quite pricey. Doubt they are available for the 215.


Young olds
roger parkey
Washington state
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Opel 1900 sport coupe 1975 Oldsmobile 215

Re: New guy
Posted by: Young olds
Date: June 20, 2018 02:11PM

Yes like Jessel, or any other manufacturer.

I did some searching but I couldnít find the answer. Wondering what the piston dish volume is on the 4.2 motors?


Young olds
roger parkey
Washington state
(74 posts)

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Opel 1900 sport coupe 1975 Oldsmobile 215

Re: New guy
Posted by: Young olds
Date: July 23, 2018 03:47PM

Bit of an update. After about 7 months I was in a position to pull my engine. I had found that water was getting into the engine from the timing cover behind the water pump. I purchased another timing cover and sold the rover in favor of keeping my 3.5 olds. Since the engine has been out I have been able to finish my engine bay, suspension( working on finishing the front brake upgrade) and finishing up on the tranny tunnel. As for the engine I tore it down to inspect after the water in oil incident, ended up going with new bearings but the cam checked fine. Finished my headers and wrapped them as well as a few other things including cosmetics. Hoping to have a drivable car in the next month or two.



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Young olds
roger parkey
Washington state
(74 posts)

Registered:
05/02/2018 07:07PM

Main British Car:
Opel 1900 sport coupe 1975 Oldsmobile 215

Re: New guy
Posted by: Young olds
Date: April 24, 2019 11:29PM

go Here for pictures [grassrootsmotorsports.com] I believe I will have it driving here in a month or so



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Sidecardoug
Doug Rowe

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Re: New guy - Mickey Thompson
Posted by: Sidecardoug
Date: May 07, 2019 08:35PM

Roger,
Mickey Thompson was involved with the Harvey Aluminum Specials that ran Indianapolis in 1962
with Buick 215 engines - ( Dan Gurney's first Indy 500 - broken transaxle after 92 laps.) Your front cover may have come from some of his efforts to make the engine competitive in that arena - He claimed 330 hp on straight alcohol from a 255 cu in version of the Buick 215.


Young olds
roger parkey
Washington state
(74 posts)

Registered:
05/02/2018 07:07PM

Main British Car:
Opel 1900 sport coupe 1975 Oldsmobile 215

Re: New guy
Posted by: Young olds
Date: May 09, 2019 08:57PM

Wondering if anyone can tell me which port is oil out and which one is in in this remote filter adapter?
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Young olds
roger parkey
Washington state
(74 posts)

Registered:
05/02/2018 07:07PM

Main British Car:
Opel 1900 sport coupe 1975 Oldsmobile 215

Re: New guy
Posted by: Young olds
Date: May 11, 2019 09:58AM

I figured it out


Young olds
roger parkey
Washington state
(74 posts)

Registered:
05/02/2018 07:07PM

Main British Car:
Opel 1900 sport coupe 1975 Oldsmobile 215

Re: New guy
Posted by: Young olds
Date: October 24, 2019 03:23PM

Looking to put new springs in my olds 215 I am freshening up to replace the current engine. Appears to have factory beehives, I need something that will handle 7000rpm.


minorv8
Jukka Harkola

(208 posts)

Registered:
04/08/2009 06:50AM

Main British Car:
Morris Minor Rover V8

Re: New guy
Posted by: minorv8
Date: October 24, 2019 11:29PM

If they really are beehives I very much doubt that they are factory items. They hardly existed in the 60's.


mgb260
Jim Nichols
Sequim,WA
(2061 posts)

Registered:
02/29/2008 08:29PM

Main British Car:
1973 MGB roadster 260 Ford V8

Re: New guy
Posted by: mgb260
Date: October 25, 2019 02:11AM

Olds were the first with the beehive springs in the 50s I believe. Pic of stock 215 Olds beehive valve spring:


olds215valveSpring.jpg



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minorv8
Jukka Harkola

(208 posts)

Registered:
04/08/2009 06:50AM

Main British Car:
Morris Minor Rover V8

Re: New guy
Posted by: minorv8
Date: October 25, 2019 02:49AM

Well live and learn !



BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(5966 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: New guy
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: October 25, 2019 03:31PM

Yep, standard equipment in the 215. Nobody quite knew what to make of it.

Jim


roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
(3061 posts)

Registered:
04/24/2009 11:02AM

Main British Car:
74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: New guy
Posted by: roverman
Date: October 30, 2019 07:31PM

They also came in 394 Olds, used on 215's for more pressure.


Young olds
roger parkey
Washington state
(74 posts)

Registered:
05/02/2018 07:07PM

Main British Car:
Opel 1900 sport coupe 1975 Oldsmobile 215

Re: New guy
Posted by: Young olds
Date: November 01, 2019 11:58AM

Do 394 springs work with stock retainer?


roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
(3061 posts)

Registered:
04/24/2009 11:02AM

Main British Car:
74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: New guy
Posted by: roverman
Date: November 01, 2019 03:03PM

As I recall- yes. Your results may vary. Com Cams and Pacalloy have MANY different beehives.


MGBV8
Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN
(3991 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 11:32PM

Main British Car:
1979 MGB, Buick 215

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Re: New guy
Posted by: MGBV8
Date: November 01, 2019 06:24PM

I used a set from Comp Cams around 1990 for my Camaro. They called them conical valve springs back then.
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