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hoffbug
Tony Hoffer
Minnesota
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10/15/2007 05:25PM

Main British Car:
Olds 215 EFI

Buick/ Rover aluminum v8 single plane intake manifolds
Posted by: hoffbug
Date: February 13, 2019 04:39PM

Is there anyone left making an aluminum single plane intake?

Ran across a company called ACR in England who claims to be making a re-tooled version of the Widcat cylinder head.. also hinted they can supply intake manifolds.. No answer via e-mail. Last website update was early 2017.

Tried to contact Maxwedge Performance in Australia.. No response from e-mail to Bills old address.. One web search says the business is closed.. another says his son Anthony may be doing some things on a special order basis.

Does anyone have any updates on these 2 businesses?


minorv8
Jukka Harkola

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Morris Minor Rover V8

Re: Buick/ Rover aluminum v8 single plane intake manifolds
Posted by: minorv8
Date: February 14, 2019 02:03AM

I bought my Wilcat heads from ACR last fall and they are definitely in business.

My intake came from MaxWedge but that was yeras and years ago. No idea about current status.


hoffbug
Tony Hoffer
Minnesota
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Olds 215 EFI

Re: Buick/ Rover aluminum v8 single plane intake manifolds
Posted by: hoffbug
Date: February 14, 2019 10:40AM

OK..
ACR got back to me today.. They still make Raised port intakes for the Wildcat heads, and have them in stock. They no longer carry or have access to the patterns for the Rover Version of the single 4bbl intake.


roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
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74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: Buick/ Rover aluminum v8 single plane intake manifolds
Posted by: roverman
Date: February 14, 2019 11:56AM

Offy still has their low, single plane in (2) 2bbl and (1) 4 bbl. They will easily port to 300 alum. head size. art.


hoffbug
Tony Hoffer
Minnesota
(319 posts)

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Olds 215 EFI

Re: Buick/ Rover aluminum v8 single plane intake manifolds
Posted by: hoffbug
Date: February 14, 2019 04:39PM

I am sad to report that Bill Laney has passed away... I am currently attempting to contact his son Anthony.


Dan Jones
Dan Jones
St. Louis, Missouri
(267 posts)

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07/21/2008 03:32PM

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1980 Triumph TR8 3.5L Rover V8

Re: Buick/ Rover aluminum v8 single plane intake manifolds
Posted by: Dan Jones
Date: February 14, 2019 05:36PM

> They no longer carry or have access to the patterns for the Rover Version of the single 4bbl intake.

Woody at the Wedge Shop still shows the Harcourt single plane as available for the Rover V8.

> They still make Raised port intakes for the Wildcat heads, and have them in stock

Woody purchased a set of the Wildcat heads for his TR8. It appears he got only the heads and not the intake. He currently runs a Harcourt intake so I assume he plans to use it on the Wildcat heads. I wonder what it will take to get it to match those heads?

> Offy still has their low, single plane in (2) 2bbl and (1) 4 bbl. They will easily port to 300 alum. head size.

That's not a very good intake manifold. It's more of just a plenum. I dyno tested more than a dozen intakes on another V8 (Ford 351C) and the Offy 360 Equa Flow was the worst intake tested.

> I am currently attempting to contact his son Anthony.

Let us know if he still makes the Rover version of the intake. Mine was a good fit for the TA Performance Rover heads.

Dan Jones


hoffbug
Tony Hoffer
Minnesota
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Re: Buick/ Rover aluminum v8 single plane intake manifolds
Posted by: hoffbug
Date: February 14, 2019 06:46PM

Dan.

I've seen that Woody has the Harcourt for sale on the Wedgeshop page. I never considered that it was new and still available. I always though it was a used spare.

Can you tell me more about the fitment of the Willpower intake with the TA heads. What lines up and what needed help with porting or modifications?



Dan Jones
Dan Jones
St. Louis, Missouri
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1980 Triumph TR8 3.5L Rover V8

Re: Buick/ Rover aluminum v8 single plane intake manifolds
Posted by: Dan Jones
Date: February 15, 2019 12:00PM

> Can you tell me more about the fitment of the Willpower intake with the TA heads. What lines up and what needed help with porting or modifications?

They are a close match out of the box. Only a minor amount of material was removed from the heads to match the ports to the Willpower single. I had some pictures at photobucket that appear to still be there. This one shows the before and after matching ports:

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l621/danielcjones2/Buick%20Olds%20Rover%20Aluminum%20V8/TA_Rover_heads_intake_port_50percent_zpspm8wmkzg.jpg

Dan


hoffbug
Tony Hoffer
Minnesota
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Re: Buick/ Rover aluminum v8 single plane intake manifolds
Posted by: hoffbug
Date: February 15, 2019 01:00PM

Thanks Dan

I'm a bit surprised that the as cast openings on the Willpower intake were larger than the as cast intake port on the TA heads.
(My Willpower intake matched up pretty well with my Oldsmobile heads. )

were you able to run a stock Rover composite Valley cover/ intake gasket without modification ?


Dan Jones
Dan Jones
St. Louis, Missouri
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1980 Triumph TR8 3.5L Rover V8

Re: Buick/ Rover aluminum v8 single plane intake manifolds
Posted by: Dan Jones
Date: February 15, 2019 06:03PM

> were you able to run a stock Rover composite Valley cover/ intake gasket without modification ?

No. The TA Performance heads require a separate valley cover.

Dan Jones


hoffbug
Tony Hoffer
Minnesota
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Re: Buick/ Rover aluminum v8 single plane intake manifolds
Posted by: hoffbug
Date: February 16, 2019 12:45PM

Thanks Dan.. Would the stock composite intake / Valley cover work with the aluminum 64 Buick 300 heads? Any Port size or alignment issues?


Dan Jones
Dan Jones
St. Louis, Missouri
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1980 Triumph TR8 3.5L Rover V8

Re: Buick/ Rover aluminum v8 single plane intake manifolds
Posted by: Dan Jones
Date: February 18, 2019 12:42PM

> Would the stock composite intake / Valley cover work with the aluminum 64 Buick 300 heads?

Yes. You can use a dremel tool to trim the valley pan gasket to the larger Buick 300 port size. Huffaker single plane is a perfect port match to the Buick 300 intake ports.

> Any Port size or alignment issues?

No issues. The Buick 300 heads have the ports in the same location.

Dan Jones


hoffbug
Tony Hoffer
Minnesota
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Re: Buick/ Rover aluminum v8 single plane intake manifolds
Posted by: hoffbug
Date: February 18, 2019 05:44PM

Thanks Dan


I did get an Initial response from Anthony Laney. He said he still has the patterns to make all of the products that Bill made and he will be doing another run soon.. I am awaiting a return e-mail with pricing and shipping. .If in line... I am considering ordering another intake just in case I ever assemble the stroker engine.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/18/2019 05:45PM by hoffbug.


Sidecardoug
Doug Rowe

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Re: Buick/ Rover aluminum v8 single plane intake manifolds
Posted by: Sidecardoug
Date: February 25, 2019 08:03PM

You might want to look here-
[www.edelbrock.com]

They may make other manifolds that will fit and suit your needs, as well.

FiTech now makes both 2bbl and 4bbl self contained throttle body injection systems that have all the brain, etc inside the throttle body, except for the O2 sensors - an easy and cost effective way to have a self-learnig FI setup for many applications - bolts on in place of a carburetor. Holley also makes a 4bbl unit that functions in a similar manner.


hoffbug
Tony Hoffer
Minnesota
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Olds 215 EFI

Re: Buick/ Rover aluminum v8 single plane intake manifolds
Posted by: hoffbug
Date: February 27, 2019 08:04PM

Thanks Doug.

I already have the FAST EZ-EFI version 1.. A lot of people crap on it But I guess I'm comitted to trying it since I already have it..
The Edelbrock manifold is probably really good for a street driven can with a carburetor. But ts a dual plane, and everything I'm reading says a single plane performs far better with a throttle body FI system.

Im on the list for the next run of Willpower manifolds Anthony is making. So I'll have a spare to port if I ever put the stroker engine together.



mgb260
Jim Nichols
Sequim,WA
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1973 MGB roadster 260 Ford V8

Re: Buick/ Rover aluminum v8 single plane intake manifolds
Posted by: mgb260
Date: February 28, 2019 10:49AM

Tony, Did Anthony give you a price on the intake? I wonder if he can make one for the 300 Buick?


hoffbug
Tony Hoffer
Minnesota
(319 posts)

Registered:
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Olds 215 EFI

Re: Buick/ Rover aluminum v8 single plane intake manifolds
Posted by: hoffbug
Date: February 28, 2019 12:54PM

Jim

The quote I got for the Rover manifold was 700 AUD.

This is just my opinion/observation on a 300 manifold...
I think in order for Anthony to make a commercially viable one for a 300 Buick it would have to be an entirely new pattern. When I had talked to Bill about it he was simply going to take the existing pattern and add some material onto each side. But like Dan had mentioned earlier the ports would be small. The Buick 300 is such a small Market. And then you would be splitting it amongst people that wanted small ports and larger for the iron and TA or Wildcat heads.
While it would be nice to have a dedicated manifold I don't see it happening. Spacers, while not ideal, would give you a range of options on the existing manifolds to better match the port and Intended use.

But that is just my take..Money talks. But I think it would have to be a pretty big carrot to dangle in front of someone to invest in making an entirely new pattern.


Young olds
roger parkey
Washington state
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Opel 1900 sport coupe 1975 Oldsmobile 215

Re: Buick/ Rover aluminum v8 single plane intake manifolds
Posted by: Young olds
Date: February 28, 2019 03:02PM

Is there a list we can get on? It is $700aud for the willpower single plane? I am thinking I might want one.


hoffbug
Tony Hoffer
Minnesota
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Olds 215 EFI

Re: Buick/ Rover aluminum v8 single plane intake manifolds
Posted by: hoffbug
Date: February 28, 2019 03:16PM

Roger..Yes $700 AUD for the Rover single plane. I emailed Anthony and asked him if I could post his contact information publicly or give it out privately since I stumbled on it through old contacts I don't want to give it out without his express permission.


hoffbug
Tony Hoffer
Minnesota
(319 posts)

Registered:
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Main British Car:
Olds 215 EFI

Re: Buick/ Rover aluminum v8 single plane intake manifolds
Posted by: hoffbug
Date: February 28, 2019 04:00PM

He gave me the OK..


anthony.laney3550@gmail.com
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