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Roverbeam
Chad McNeely
N.E. MO
(76 posts)

Registered:
06/09/2021 06:03PM

Main British Car:
Alpine S4 Rover 4.0

No trumpet Rover intake with a carb?
Posted by: Roverbeam
Date: April 13, 2024 07:56PM

IMG_5414.jpeg
(Google search image, found several locations, seems widely shared)

In my shed I have a 300 with no intake or carb. It’d probably sell if it was running, and I don’t want to junk it.
I’ve removed the intake from a RV8 4.0.
I have an old Rochester 4bbl carb. (Or could splurge for something more current.)

What if I…
Like the image above, yank out the trumpets and radius their holes.
Build a little box plenum above that (or mod the side inlet 4.0 plenum, removing the side inlet)
Mount the old carb on top of that plenum.
Plug the injector ports.

Woulditwork?

I’m guessing it would be hard to feed 1 & 8 with enough fuel, is my 1st obstacle.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/13/2024 07:59PM by Roverbeam.


mgb260
Jim Nichols
Sequim,WA
(2464 posts)

Registered:
02/29/2008 08:29PM

Main British Car:
1973 MGB roadster 260 Ford V8

Re: No trumpet Rover intake with a carb?
Posted by: mgb260
Date: April 13, 2024 10:22PM

I had that idea for a 4.0 Ford V6. 2" high plenum, using a baffle plate with 1" risers. folded down on the sides and ends with 1" square notches along side of the ports. Crosshatch the baffle with 100 grit to prevent pooling, Identical virtual ports for equal distribution. I was going to use a 390 cfm Holley, on the V6, on the 300 I'd use a 500 cfm Summit carb or 500 cfm Edelbrock AVS because of their annular boosters. Carb should be centered on top of plenum.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/14/2024 10:49AM by mgb260.


joe_padavano
Joseph Padavano
Northern Virginia
(157 posts)

Registered:
02/15/2010 03:49PM

Main British Car:
1962 F-85 Deluxe wagon 215 Olds

Re: No trumpet Rover intake with a carb?
Posted by: joe_padavano
Date: April 14, 2024 08:16AM

Will it run? Yeah, probably. Will it run well? Not so much. Will you spend way more time and money doing this vs. just getting a factory 4bbl intake? Absolutely.


Roverbeam
Chad McNeely
N.E. MO
(76 posts)

Registered:
06/09/2021 06:03PM

Main British Car:
Alpine S4 Rover 4.0

Re: No trumpet Rover intake with a carb?
Posted by: Roverbeam
Date: April 14, 2024 09:31AM

Jim-
Hmm. Looking at the parts, I was thinking of sort of the opposite - removing all the webs between the intake holes as deep as I dared, creating something like a single plane intake feeding from a common gallery/plenum. So the horizontal flow to the ports happens down low, rather than over the top of the intake…

Joe, there’s one a couple hours from me on Marketplace. That’s still the safe fallback option, if more creative (and so far, free) options become unworkable.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/14/2024 09:41AM by Roverbeam.


Airwreckc
Eric Cumming
RTP, North Carolina
(250 posts)

Registered:
05/28/2020 10:10AM

Main British Car:
1972 MGB-GT (working on a Sebring project) Buick 300-4 V8

Re: No trumpet Rover intake with a carb?
Posted by: Airwreckc
Date: April 15, 2024 08:38AM

Chad, in case it might help, I do have a 300 4-BBL intake I'm not going to use. Not sure how much it's worth (and I'd have to find it). But if you're interested and it helps, let me know.


Roverbeam
Chad McNeely
N.E. MO
(76 posts)

Registered:
06/09/2021 06:03PM

Main British Car:
Alpine S4 Rover 4.0

Re: No trumpet Rover intake with a carb?
Posted by: Roverbeam
Date: April 15, 2024 11:21AM

Thanks Eric. I've been keeping an eye on Marketplace and Ebay and have seen the iron 4bbl's going for $400 and up to about $700, and there's currently an aluminum one that's asking $250. So far I'm leaning toward the aluminum. The iron ones have a worth to the 300 community that is beyond what I'd want to pay!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/15/2024 11:24AM by Roverbeam.


IaTR6
Dennis Costello
Central Iowa
(192 posts)

Registered:
12/29/2007 02:53PM

Main British Car:
'73 TR 6 '97 Explorer 5.0

Re: No trumpet Rover intake with a carb?
Posted by: IaTR6
Date: April 15, 2024 01:02PM

Jim Nichols,
Would you happen to have a sketch of this "baffle plate"?
I can't picture it in my mind, and am curious since I made an
upper plenum for my Ford V8. The plenum is open in the interior, with
radiused entry to the lower manifold runners. Perhaps due to my use
of port injection, this arrangement works ok?
Thanks,
Dennis



mgb260
Jim Nichols
Sequim,WA
(2464 posts)

Registered:
02/29/2008 08:29PM

Main British Car:
1973 MGB roadster 260 Ford V8

Re: No trumpet Rover intake with a carb?
Posted by: mgb260
Date: April 15, 2024 07:39PM

Dennis, You would use a factory lower intake.I forgot to mention the base plate that the baffle plate would bolt to. Also the upper part of the plenum would bolt to. The baffle plate is bent down on the sides and ends with 1" notches along side the ports. 1" spacers for the baffle and 1" space for the top of the plenum. Hope this description helps. I'll try to do a sketch sometime.


Airwreckc
Eric Cumming
RTP, North Carolina
(250 posts)

Registered:
05/28/2020 10:10AM

Main British Car:
1972 MGB-GT (working on a Sebring project) Buick 300-4 V8

Re: No trumpet Rover intake with a carb?
Posted by: Airwreckc
Date: April 16, 2024 09:30AM

Chad, I would definitely snap up that aluminum manifold--they are typically more valuable than the iron ones, so it would be a good one to grab.


88v8
Ivor Duarte
Gloucestershire UK
(1042 posts)

Registered:
02/11/2010 04:29AM

Main British Car:
1974 Land Rover Lightweight V8

Re: No trumpet Rover intake with a carb?
Posted by: 88v8
Date: April 28, 2024 05:05AM

@Roverbeam, I imagine your OP might work better with 2 x 2bbl carbs. At lest as regards distribution.


mgb260
Jim Nichols
Sequim,WA
(2464 posts)

Registered:
02/29/2008 08:29PM

Main British Car:
1973 MGB roadster 260 Ford V8

Re: No trumpet Rover intake with a carb?
Posted by: mgb260
Date: May 01, 2024 11:13AM

Chad, have you seen these VW Rabbit flares on a Sunbeam?

[forum.sunbeamalpine.org]


Roverbeam
Chad McNeely
N.E. MO
(76 posts)

Registered:
06/09/2021 06:03PM

Main British Car:
Alpine S4 Rover 4.0

Re: No trumpet Rover intake with a carb?
Posted by: Roverbeam
Date: May 01, 2024 05:28PM

Hi Jim,
I thought I had read most of the threads even remotely touching on altered Alpines, but I missed that one! I've seen that those flares were (once?) popular for mgbs I think? I didn't really consider them, honestly (nor the repurposed Bug fenders that one guy used...). I want to keep closer to the original arch shape, to keep the car looking more Alpine-ish, at least at first glance. Thanks for sharing your search-engine like knowledge, and thinking of my plight when you saw that thread!

Not much car work the last couple weeks - but I ordered the driveshaft, an aluminum jobbie from the Driveshaft Shop, thus heavily denting this month's car allowance. Kid graduates in a couple weeks, big party, in-laws coming, gotta finish some home projects for now.


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