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Dawie
Dawie Coetzee
Cape Town, South Africa
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04/17/2009 07:53AM

Main British Car:
1958 Morris Minor Subaru EJ25 (planned)

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Subaru EJ engines
Posted by: Dawie
Date: April 21, 2009 02:09AM

Is anyone familar with the Subaru EJ engines?

I'm looking at doing something unusual, even inexplicable to some. I want a Luddite EJ25 in my Morris, with carbs and a distributor.

The EJ has a fairly large stagger between its banks, with the right bank forward. On the SOHC engine there is a plate over the back of the right-hand camshaft that seems made for a distributor. It suggests a timing hold-down tab and everything. Does anyone know if there was ever an EJ with a distributor in that position? If so, can the parts be got? If not, any thoughts on affixing a distributor to the back of the cam, and can anyone suggest a low-profile distributor that will not add too much length to the engine?

Thanks

Dawie


Greg55_99
Greg Williams

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Re: Subaru EJ engines
Posted by: Greg55_99
Date: April 21, 2009 10:48AM

The answer is Ford Escort distributor:

[www.prachapter34.com]

Greg


Dawie
Dawie Coetzee
Cape Town, South Africa
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1958 Morris Minor Subaru EJ25 (planned)

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Re: Subaru EJ engines
Posted by: Dawie
Date: April 21, 2009 11:18AM

Thanks Greg! That'd be the one off the 1.6 CVH, I take it? -D


Greg55_99
Greg Williams

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Re: Subaru EJ engines
Posted by: Greg55_99
Date: April 21, 2009 02:35PM

Yep, I think that's it. I've actually seen a Soobie 2.2 mounted in an autogyro with the Escort distributor conversion. Don't know how that would fit well in a car however. Got this off of the "AirSoob" Board on Yahoo:

"-----Original Message-----
From: m3brown98311 [mailto:m3brown@...]
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 2:30 PM
To: airsoob@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AirSoob] Help--Escort Distributor

I have lurked here long enough to borrow your idea of using the Ford
Escort Distributor on a Soob.

I have a 1993 2.2 fuel-injected motor on a 20' hovercraft. Spark is
thru a 1982 1.6 distributor with the external module. Are there any
words of wisdom about an oil seal: it is leaking between the Soob
head and the mounting plate for the distibutor. Thus far, it is not
leaking thru the seal into the distributor.

Also, the 1.6 dizzie rotates counterclockwise in the original
appplication; counterclockwise on the Subaru also. The mechanical
arms inside the distributor move the rotor further counterclockwise
and retard the timing. Has anyone tried reversing the arms to give
it mechanical advance? TIA Milton"
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----- Original Message -----
From: patrick james
To: airsoob@...
Sent: October 28, 2000 11:39 AM
Subject: FORD ESCORT DISTRIBUTOR


Does anyone out there know just how well the combination of FORD ESCORT distributor and the 2.2 L SUBARU is working ? It's in print that a few individuals have gone that route .I'm hoping that all are enjoying themselves and are just too busy to report back. A certain vender is telling me that the distributor , used in that manner tends to fail - in as little as two hours sometimes.Yes , they say that they have come up with their own electronic version . What says the group ?
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Patrick:
I have installed an ESCORT dist. on my EJ-22 which has been test run on a stand.
I did not use the FORD module but a CHRYSLER module from mid 80's
,this module has been on CHRYSLERS I have driven for over 25 yrs. and I have never had a failure.
The CHRYSLER module is only $27.00 as compared to $80.00 for FORD and is totally compatible whith the ESCORT dist. pickup.
In my case I am using a standard points dist. (DATSUN) on the RH camshaft , for my backup ignition ,theplug comes out of the head and you have to make an adapter to mount another dist ,(which uses only the points and condensor ,no HV wires ) here ,but I have done it and it works.

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Yeah, me too. So here are my two cents worth.

For EA81's:

1. 2 Napa IC107 coils, 2 GM 4pin igniter modules, one MSD 8210 coil joiner
and 2 ND magnetic pickups on an adapter plate in a ND dizzy equals a superior
functioning dual dizzy. The modules need heat sinking on some cool surface
(firewall) to prevent from overheating or heat soaking after shutdown.

For EA81's or 82's:

2. 2 Napa IC107 coils, one MSD 8210 coil joiner and two mitsu integrated
igniter module/pickups and a "fat" reluctor on an adapter plate in a ND or
Hitachi dizzy has also proven an air worthy combo.

For EJ22's:

3. A Ford Escort dizzy with either the electronics from #1 or #2 will work
and has proven flight time.

Each of these systems has hundreds if not thousands of hours of successful
operation and represent the best of all the dual system variations.

There are also crank fired/single magnetic pickup combos (Stratus) and other
variations which use either the stock soob coil or stock soob igniter module.

Stock soob coils (oil filled) need to be be mounted horizontally, if not they
overheat and fail. Stock soob igniter modules are not cheap to replace
($300US). Incorrect combos of igniter modules and coils with the wrong
resistance burn up, breakdown and fail.

Still others have successfully adapted dizzy's with dual breaker points and
add 2 coils a coil joiner to get the setup to work.

Have I got it right?

PeterVC



Todd McLauchlin wrote:

> Hi gang...
>
> I'm having a hard time following this ignition module and coil crosstalk.
> What are the best recommendations in terms of coil and module. What about
> if there's a dual ign. ?
>
> Mac

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That's all I get from a web search....


Greg


Dawie
Dawie Coetzee
Cape Town, South Africa
(25 posts)

Registered:
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1958 Morris Minor Subaru EJ25 (planned)

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Re: Subaru EJ engines
Posted by: Dawie
Date: April 23, 2009 01:39AM

That's a lot of info, thanks! But surely that's mechanical advance on the CVH? -D


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