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roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
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74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Electron Beam welding
Posted by: roverman
Date: July 13, 2009 05:33PM

Hello out there. Anyone have first hand knowledge with this type of welding. I have a project ,in aluminum, that requires this. As a side note, this is how "Fluid Dampener", harmonic dampeners are assembled. Thanks, roverman.


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
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1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: Electron Beam welding
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: July 13, 2009 11:03PM

It's done with an alien ray gun. No, seriously!

Jim


roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
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74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: Electron Beam welding
Posted by: roverman
Date: July 14, 2009 04:49PM

Ok Jim, Is that what they told you? I think I'll need to pay an american company serious change for this project. Probably "soft vac. or no vac" and "high voltage", perhaps within a "plasma window" configuration. I've personally have not used this process, but it appears to be suited for my needs. roverman.
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roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
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74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: Electron Beam welding
Posted by: roverman
Date: July 14, 2009 04:50PM

Ok Jim, Is that what they told you? I think I'll need to pay an american company serious change for this project. Probably "soft vac. or no vac" and "high voltage", perhaps within a "plasma window" configuration. I've personally have not used this process, but it appears to be suited for my needs. roverman.


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
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Re: Electron Beam welding
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: July 14, 2009 11:08PM

Art, be sure to take pictures for us. EBW does make some particularly nice welds, is pretty specialized and used more for production type applications. [en.wikipedia.org]

Usually for small quantity applications other joining methods are used. Are you having a fluid damper made?

Jim

(It is still an alien space ray though)


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
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Re: Electron Beam welding
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: July 15, 2009 12:08PM

Apparently EBW is particularly well suited to making deep, narrow weld seams with penetration in the range of 2-6" with weld zones under 1/2" wide. Not building a battleship are you Art? A tank maybe?

Jim


NixVegaGT
Nicolas Wiederhold
Minneapolis, MN
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'73 Vega GT 4.9L Rover/Buick Stroker

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Re: Electron Beam welding
Posted by: NixVegaGT
Date: July 15, 2009 05:15PM

Holy @#$%&!



roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
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74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: Electron Beam welding
Posted by: roverman
Date: July 15, 2009 11:30PM

Gentlemen.... Let's not read into this. This project is for "friendly battles only" No fluid damper, no alien abduction, maybe some blown-off doors... but that remains to be seen. Speaking of "flying", anyone run the "Maxon Mile". It's on my horizon and I could use some, first hand knowledege. Thank You fellow motorheads, roverman.


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
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Re: Electron Beam welding
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: July 16, 2009 07:37PM

According to Steve DeGroat who is sitting on my left at the moment, it costs $50 to join the organization, website is LSR-ECTA.com Keith Kirk, costs $100(advance) or $120 for the weekend. Doesn't run in July or August. You can send Steve a PM, but he won't be back home for a few days.

HTH,
Jim


MGBV8
Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN
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1979 MGB Buick 215

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Re: Electron Beam welding
Posted by: MGBV8
Date: July 16, 2009 10:57PM

I had to Google it.

It's called the Maxton Mile & sounds like something I REALLY need to do.

More info here:

[www.ecta-lsr.com]


roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
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74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: Electron Beam welding
Posted by: roverman
Date: July 23, 2009 09:25PM

Fellow "Speed Seekers", anyone going to "Maxton Mile" in Sept.? I plan to fly there to, "scope-it". I think my "Huffaker", would like it there. It's gonna take some Motor ! Perhaps some of us can meet there? Art from So.Cal.
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roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
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74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: Electron Beam welding/ailing ray gun ?
Posted by: roverman
Date: December 30, 2009 08:06PM

Anybody? Perhaps you got a glimpse during their, "experiments" on you? I have the "need". My stg. II heads, have the "need". We want the power ! I can't wait another hour. Let's build a "hp. golden shower", etc. etc.roverman.


NixVegaGT
Nicolas Wiederhold
Minneapolis, MN
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'73 Vega GT 4.9L Rover/Buick Stroker

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Re: Electron Beam welding/ailing ray gun ?
Posted by: NixVegaGT
Date: December 30, 2009 09:19PM

I wonder if we could weld the aluminum bore liners with this method.


roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
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74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: Electron Beam welding
Posted by: roverman
Date: December 30, 2009 11:18PM

UGH! What you mean we? paleface.VERY expensive for non-prodution use. Your better half is giving you an unlimited budget in 2010? If I can get two heads, "EB'd" for 300-$500,(1 weld ea.), I'll be strokin/danglin articiple, like yuse-guys.Preheat and tig is a good/cheep method for 4" bore,symesed alum.cans. Ray Gun not required,(no, not a dead president).roverman.


NixVegaGT
Nicolas Wiederhold
Minneapolis, MN
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'73 Vega GT 4.9L Rover/Buick Stroker

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Re: Electron Beam welding
Posted by: NixVegaGT
Date: December 31, 2009 07:55AM

LOL



BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(6470 posts)

Registered:
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Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: Electron Beam welding
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: December 31, 2009 11:58AM

I guess you could just weld those tin cans top and bottom right? Any gap in the middle just lets coolant circulate? No real pressure there from the piston anyway.

Jim


roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
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Registered:
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74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: Electron Beam welding
Posted by: roverman
Date: December 31, 2009 02:06PM

Ok, now we talkin "tin" bores? I thought we workin V8's? Stainless bores? Aluminum/cast iron bores? I think I'm more confused than "bored".Can we just "hone" our chat-skills here ? you know and "focus"-like...Nic, the non-machinist who will "Tell-All".....MIKE,Jim/clan. roverman.


slow_M
Bernard Holzberg

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1975 TVR M series Ford 331

Re: Electron Beam welding
Posted by: slow_M
Date: January 01, 2010 01:04AM

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=688694&stc=1&d=1245566472
You've been found out!
:)


NixVegaGT
Nicolas Wiederhold
Minneapolis, MN
(659 posts)

Registered:
10/16/2007 05:30AM

Main British Car:
'73 Vega GT 4.9L Rover/Buick Stroker

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Re: Electron Beam welding
Posted by: NixVegaGT
Date: January 01, 2010 11:55AM

WOW! Where'd you get that pic? Look at all those wires. LOL!
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roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
(3188 posts)

Registered:
04/24/2009 11:02AM

Main British Car:
74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: Electron Beam welding/ P 76 ?
Posted by: roverman
Date: January 01, 2010 05:40PM

Bernard, nice "teaser", thanks but about as "sharing" as...MIKE ? Intakes look like P 76, could it be ? If so, Nic must find this abomination to further conjugate. Nic, 4.03 bores,(16) should be enough? At least 4" stroke? "It's hip to be square" @ Tractor Pulls ? roverman.
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