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britcars
Phil Ossinger
New Brunswick, Canada
(332 posts)

Registered:
02/02/2009 07:58PM

Main British Car:
1977 MGB Roadster, Rover 3.5 ADVENTURE BEFORE DEMENTIA!

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Bill Guzman's 4 Link
Posted by: britcars
Date: August 06, 2014 10:47PM

I recently installed Bill's 4 link suspension system. It is working as advertized, however, I'm wondering if anyone has played with the adjustment on the QA1 shocks. They came adjusted to the F(Firm) setting and I didn't change them.
Has anyone tried the Regular or Xfirm settings? Your observations?
Thanks!
Phil


mgman52
Jim Pasquale
Fredonia, New York
(19 posts)

Registered:
10/04/2009 08:12AM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB GT Buick 215- 347 this spring!

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Re: Bill Guzman's 4 Link
Posted by: mgman52
Date: December 02, 2014 07:08PM

Phil,
I just ordered this setup for my 71 GT.
Can you give me advice on assembly or setup that may help?
Are you using the stock rearend?
Now that you have run it for a while, did you end up changing the settings from firm?
Thanks!


britcars
Phil Ossinger
New Brunswick, Canada
(332 posts)

Registered:
02/02/2009 07:58PM

Main British Car:
1977 MGB Roadster, Rover 3.5 ADVENTURE BEFORE DEMENTIA!

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Re: Bill Guzman's 4 Link
Posted by: britcars
Date: December 03, 2014 08:39AM

Jim:
I haven't changed the settings from Firm to Regular but may do it over the winter to try it in the spring. Bill advised that the Firm setting best mimmicks the ride of the standard B leaf spring ride.
I'm using a narrowed Ford Ranger rear end with a 3:45 ratio and it is working well. No particular advice.....Bill's instructions are very comprehensive. Pay particular attention to getting the bushings well lubed, I have one that has developed an annoying squeak.

Phil


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Jim Nichols
Sequim,WA
(2004 posts)

Registered:
02/29/2008 08:29PM

Main British Car:
1973 MGB roadster 260 Ford V8

Re: Bill Guzman's 4 Link
Posted by: mgb260
Date: December 04, 2014 05:31PM

Hey Phil, Did you do the other short axle trick to narrow the Ranger rear? How do you like the 3.45 ratio with the T5 2.95 first and .63 fifth?


britcars
Phil Ossinger
New Brunswick, Canada
(332 posts)

Registered:
02/02/2009 07:58PM

Main British Car:
1977 MGB Roadster, Rover 3.5 ADVENTURE BEFORE DEMENTIA!

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Re: Bill Guzman's 4 Link
Posted by: britcars
Date: December 05, 2014 09:45AM

Jim:
I did use the other short axle trick and am pleased with the result. Had a horrible time getting the long tube out of the centre section though. Had to resort to some unusual measures. Ended up cutting the tube off and machining the reminants of the tube out of the centre section on a vertical mill. Great to have friends with all the toys! :-)
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Jim Nichols
Sequim,WA
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02/29/2008 08:29PM

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1973 MGB roadster 260 Ford V8

Re: Bill Guzman's 4 Link
Posted by: mgb260
Date: December 05, 2014 11:47AM

Wow Phil, I always cut the other end to shorten because I change ends to eliminate the C clips. There is a guy on the web that drills out the factory welds and uses a hydraulic tubing bender as a puller. Do you think the ratios worked out OK with the 3.45? I'll quit hijacking this thread so you can do another on the rear end swap!


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Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN
(3782 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 11:32PM

Main British Car:
1979 MGB, Buick 215

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Re: Bill Guzman's 4 Link
Posted by: MGBV8
Date: December 05, 2014 02:32PM

Quote:
Great to have friends with all the toys! :-)

I hear that!



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Jim Durham
Gig Harbor, Wa.
(103 posts)

Registered:
01/22/2013 11:43AM

Main British Car:
1980 MGB Ford 302 (398.9 HP, 383.2 TQ)

Re: Bill Guzman's 4 Link
Posted by: JWD
Date: December 05, 2014 06:41PM

Quote:
Great to have friends with all the toys! :-)

I hear that!

Unless you're the one with the toys. Sometimes it's hard to find time for your own projects because you always seem to be doing something for someone else.


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(5821 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: Bill Guzman's 4 Link
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: December 05, 2014 08:14PM

Really?


britcars
Phil Ossinger
New Brunswick, Canada
(332 posts)

Registered:
02/02/2009 07:58PM

Main British Car:
1977 MGB Roadster, Rover 3.5 ADVENTURE BEFORE DEMENTIA!

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Re: Bill Guzman's 4 Link
Posted by: britcars
Date: December 07, 2014 07:37AM

Jim Nichols:
I'm happy with the change in ratios. Dropped the cruising RPM's a few hundred revs and the car seems a bit quieter going down the road.

Jim Durham:
My "friend with all the toys" has been a very good friend for over twenty-five plus years. When he does things for me, sometimes money changes hands when I can convince him to take it. Other times it is just buying him lunch or dinner or doing work for him when he is busy and it is something that I am competent in doing, whether it is helping to put on a new roof, powercoating something, sandblasting, some ceramic coating, making a simple part on the lathe, some basic body work or doing a brake job. We are both long since retired and most of the time projects are done at a leisurely pace. I know my friend does not feel used by me.
ps The rear end narrowing and 4 link job was done over a two and a half month period as time was available......last winter here in the great white north. :-)


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Martyn Harvey
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
(179 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 10:09PM

Main British Car:
MGB Rover V8, TVR Chevy V8, MGB GT Ford V8

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Re: Bill Guzman's 4 Link
Posted by: harv8
Date: January 22, 2015 11:10AM

Hi Phil,

Glad to see you are still having fun improving your car!

When I fitted Bill's wonderful 4-link I switched to different coil-overs. I wanted them to be easily adjustable.
Since I have used a Hoyle coil-over front suspension with GAZ shocks, I decided to go with the GAZ coil-overs on the rear.
I like the resulting ride and adjustability.

Cheers,
Martyn


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Dan Blackwood
South Charleston, WV
(972 posts)

Registered:
11/06/2007 01:55PM

Main British Car:
1966 TR4A, 1980 TR7 Multiport EFI MegaSquirt on the TR4A. Lexus V8 pl

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Re: Bill Guzman's 4 Link
Posted by: Dan B
Date: January 22, 2015 12:58PM

Even better to have a brother with the toys and MAD SKILLS!!!!


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Phil Ossinger
New Brunswick, Canada
(332 posts)

Registered:
02/02/2009 07:58PM

Main British Car:
1977 MGB Roadster, Rover 3.5 ADVENTURE BEFORE DEMENTIA!

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Re: Bill Guzman's 4 Link
Posted by: britcars
Date: January 30, 2015 10:39PM

Hello Martyn:
I still remember my first look at an MGB conversion in your garage many years ago. It took about ten years before I had one on the road but am enjoying it immensely.
Happy with my four link after I worked out a couple of issues. I may change the shock setting over the winter though.
Planning on going to Indy this year. Hope to see you there.
Phil


Charles
Charles Long
McDonald, TN
(177 posts)

Registered:
09/15/2013 08:54AM

Main British Car:
1966 MGB V6 1994 Camaro 3.4L 60V6

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Re: Bill Guzman's 4 Link
Posted by: Charles
Date: March 10, 2015 10:33PM

I now have Bill's setup in my B. I installed it with Camaro diff., had it shortened and limited slip installed. I like so far. Agree with the comment about Bill's instructions.
charles


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