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maddog
leonard burke

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02/12/2010 03:52PM

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Making it a Tr8 a convertible
Posted by: maddog
Date: February 25, 2010 06:04PM

I currently have the opportunity to purchase a hardtop Tr8 with a Buick Grand National motor (with turbo) at a price i can't pass up, however i prefer the lines of the convertible. Is is feasible to cut off the top? Has any one out there done if before? If so what issues should i be aware of, front windshield frame , mods to side windows , availability of convertible top frame, reinforcing the frame and any thing else. Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Len


MGBV8
Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN
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10/23/2007 11:32PM

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1979 MGB Buick 215

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Re: Making it a Tr8 a convertible
Posted by: MGBV8
Date: February 25, 2010 09:46PM

I wouldn't do it.

I know we are big time into mods here, but there were not very many TR8 coupes built. Less than 200 survive.


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Curtis Jacobson
Portland Oregon
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10/12/2007 02:16AM

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71 MGBGT, Buick 215

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Re: Making it a Tr8 a convertible
Posted by: Moderator
Date: February 25, 2010 10:56PM

I usually agree with everything Carl writes here... but just to play devil's advocate: if it's got a Buick Grand National motor, it's not really a TR8 coupe anymore. Once the engine has been replaced, it might as well be a TR7 with a Buick Grand National motor.

You could buy the car (cheap) and then offer it for sale, and see if this rare and highly desirable car doesn't find a home with someone who's willing to restore it. Worst case: you make a profit.

They made fewer TR8 coupes than convertibles for an obvious reason...

I think it's probably safe to say that none of us here like to see old British cars wasted. Abandoned projects and "hatchet jobs" irritate me whether the car is relatively common or relatively rare. (FWIW, I personally dislike the "$2010 Challenge" and "24 hours of Lemons" concepts because I'd much rather see fixer-uppers actually get fixed-up - particularly where old British sports cars are concerned. I don't view cars as disposable.) But if you're truly committed to improving your car, the work you do probably will improve it. We all like to see clever ideas and good craftsmanship.



After saying all that, I'll sit back and let someone who has actually worked with these cars contribute something more constructive. I've never worked on a wedge, so I can't really advise about specific technical issues.


WedgeWorks1
Mike Perkins
Ellicott City, Maryland
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07/06/2008 08:07AM

Main British Car:
1980 Triumph TR8 3.5 Litre Rover V8

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Re: Making it a Tr8 a convertible
Posted by: WedgeWorks1
Date: February 26, 2010 10:10PM

Well I hope the TR8 is not a TR8 but a TR7! They made about 20 in 1977 for 1977 model year, 116 in 1977 for 1978 model year and 158 for 1979 model year. The VIN says it all. If the VIN begins with ACN or TCN it is a TR8 Coupe and if not then its just another TR7.

To make a coupe into a convertible is not a big deal but the irony is you would need the convertible parts so at that point you would need a donor car to cut pieces from. Now you would have to strip the coupe, cut parts off the convertable, weld them together and well........why bother just get a convertible shell and put the V6 into it. Then if it is a real TR8 coupe then to put a Rover V8 back in would make it worth more than the V6 in it now.


alana
alan atkinson
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06/19/2008 08:06PM

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68 TR250 LS2

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Re: Making it a Tr8 a convertible
Posted by: alana
Date: March 07, 2010 09:39PM

Nooooo.

Don't tell me it's a real TR8 coupe. It's got to be a 7. If it isn't, sell the thing and get a nice convertible with the proceeds. Even I think they are too rare to chop up...

Assuming it's not an 8, then 7 convertibles are a dime a dozen - cheap too.
Buy one and swap the parts and you'll end up way ahead compared to trying to chop up a 7 coupe, then sell the shell off to recoup some of the cost.


Argatoga
Graham Hill

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02/08/2010 12:06AM

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Re: Making it a Tr8 a convertible
Posted by: Argatoga
Date: September 24, 2010 02:04PM

As a warning, if you don't strengthen the chassis correctly it will wobble and maybe even split in two.


TRip
Trip Anthony

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08/18/2009 01:16AM

Main British Car:
1980 TR7 performance 4 cyl

Re: Making it a Tr8 a convertible
Posted by: TRip
Date: September 26, 2010 12:35AM

The convertibles were actually designed and built differently. They actually have a stronger, stiffer lower chassis than the coupe. Therefore, a lot of modification/re-enforcing would have to be done to a chopped coupe.

Quite simply, don't bother... It's not worth the work IMHO. I think it would be a nightmare to keep the chassis straight while it's cut modified, re-enforced.

Like everyone else said... Buy a convertible and go from there.

Trip



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/26/2010 12:37AM by TRip.



WedgeWorks1
Mike Perkins
Ellicott City, Maryland
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07/06/2008 08:07AM

Main British Car:
1980 Triumph TR8 3.5 Litre Rover V8

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Re: Making it a Tr8 a convertible
Posted by: WedgeWorks1
Date: September 26, 2010 08:28PM

Actually if it is a late TR7 with the small gas cap then everything is the same with the exception of the upper windshield frame, gas filler panel before the trunk lid with underlaying framing, additional weld in braces/framing next to the seats and the tops of the rear quarter panels. You can even reuse the coupe doors too since the convertibles were made from coupe doors on the prototypes and then went to production.


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