Bodywork, Paint, Interior, Trim, & Wiring

Has any one here used Quiet Car for sound deadening. I comes in liquid form and is applied by spray brush or roller. [www.quietcoat.com]

In the past I have seen some good reports of it on the net from people working on modern cars with over powered car radios! I am considering having a gallon shipped across the Atlantic to try on both my modern car and my MGB. So I was wondering if any one here had used it. I am only looking for sound insulation not heat.

I wonder how it compares to Lizard Skin.

Yeah,
I'm coming up on that part too, very soon!
All I've heard of was H/F roll in bedliner.
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The sound deadener and heat shield type products are still relatively new and as such still enjoy a healthy price tag. This will change in time. I was researching the heat shield type products a while back and what I discovered is that they primarily use micro-beads in a paint binder. The only difference for the sound deadener would be the filler. At that time some people were buying micro beads and using their own choice of paint to mix their own at greatly reduced cost. Micro bead prices are all over the map but it is possible to buy them in bulk quite cheaply if you find a good source. Probably cheap $20 a gallon implement paint from Tractor Supply would work as well as any for the binder as long as it is compatible with your selection for color/clear coat.

I'm not certain what filler is used in the sound deadener but a little research would answer that question quickly, and whatever it is I'm quite sure it can be bought in bulk for a good price. There is no reason that the micro beads and sound deadener filler could not be combined in the same binder.

JB

Believe it or not, a lot of the Cobra guys use the foil backed insulation you buy for hot water heaters in your house. Look in Home Depot,Lowe's,etc. You will need at least 3 for firewall and floor,under hood and trunk. Probably less than $ 20 each. Not too Hi-Tech though.



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Jim I expect they use it to insulate against heat. I am looking at insulating against sound.

Hy - Tech Thermal solutions, I picked up 2/ 5 gallon microsphere kits and got the third one free! It insulates heat and sound.
Look at the specials to get the deal,I bought enough to do the B tub and insulate the house when I paint it.
They have different size kits ( measured bagged amounts) for what you need and are very prompt at service and friendly too!

No affiliation.

www.hytechsales.com

If I can wake this thread up for a while, the product description in the following link talks about "sound absorbing fillers and resins". Does any one know what they might be?

[www.hytechsales.com]

Thanks.

Might be just hype. But, at $31/gal it is priced right.

Jim

I am. Seems if these products were all that great, they would have decible or thermal values ? roverman.

I know a few of the hot rod guys around here swear by lizard skin. There are 2 kinds of lizard skin, 1 for heat, 1 for sound. They can both be used together but you have to put a certain one on first, then the 2nd before it dries I think. I was told the heat insulator has the microbeads and ceramic in the paint. Dont know if thats true or not. Its supposed to reduce the heat by 30% with 2 coats? Trucks just did an episode where they put the heat one on the bottom of the cab of an autox ranger they are building. They did 2 heavy coats and weighed the bucket before and after and it only added like 3-4 pounds to the truck. They also painted over it with rattle can engine paint when they were finished because they said dirt sticks to it and its hard to clean if you dont paint it with something slick.
EDIT: you also have to use a special gun to spray it, but i think it cleans up with water.



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[www.powerblocktv.com]
Here is the episode. not sure if they will let you watch it in the UK without using a proxy server or not?

I can say the Lizard Skin "Sound Control", "Ceramic Heat Control" are both awesome products. We drove to MG2011 last year on a very hot day, in dead stop and go trafic on the freeway, for an 8 mile section, because of construction, and an 18 wheeler carrying bees rolled on it's side. My passanger compartment by my feet, under my legs, or by the transmission cover, we didn't fell any heat at all. My headers on both sides are not ceramic coated yet, the 2 1/2" exhaust runs under my legs, then up under my drive line. I felt under my carpet on the floor where the exhaust is on the other side,(which is 1/4" away) it was only luke warm. My engine runs best at 205 degrees, the engine compartment doesn't get rid of the heat well at all (the air can go in good, but not get out good).This stuff is amazing. I sprayed the skin everywhere I could, inside doors,fenders, trunck, firewall both sides, tub(inside underside), transmission cover (both sides), and used it as an undercoating instead of British tar.

"Yes" all the Lizard skin I sprayed was painted with several different kinds of paint in different areas of the car. You spray sound control first (I let mine dry 2 days before spraying Ceramic heat control) then the heat control after. You only need about 1/32" of each per instructions if my memory serves me right. I sprayed over the Lizard Skin with body color paint, POR chassis paint, POR heat paint, and used clear on body paint. I will be using these products on my steel hard top resto before the headliner goes in. My son and I spraryed his steel hard top on his Spit before the headliner went in, it kept the heat down on a very hot day inside. I was very surprised at how much cooler it was inside compaired to before it was sprayed with Skin.

It is water based (easy clean up) and is somewhat a fire retardent, won't burn very well, could possibly save a car from turning into an ash pile.

Can't say enough about how much I like both these products!

I have looked at Lizard Skin Sound Control. In the UK there is only one dealer I have found and they charge £109 per gallon. That would be USD170. As I operate on a limited budget and can source ceramic micro spheres cheaply I was planning to follow Jim Blackwood's early post and mix my own with paint. If I knew what the "sound absorbing fillers and resins" actually were I could perhaps add them to or select a paint that already contained them.

I have both types of Lizard Skin plus a dynamat-style foil plus jet-hot coated headers. I'm not sure which of these are doing the lifting but I get NO heat inside the cabin. If it's cloudy and even 60 degrees outside I use my seat heaters.

George



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