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djw090
David Witham
Warwick UK
(115 posts)

Registered:
06/12/2008 11:20AM

Main British Car:
MGB 1974 and MG ZT 160 turbo 2005

Sound deadening with Quiet Car
Posted by: djw090
Date: April 30, 2010 02:19AM

Has any one here used Quiet Car for sound deadening. I comes in liquid form and is applied by spray brush or roller. [www.quietcoat.com]

In the past I have seen some good reports of it on the net from people working on modern cars with over powered car radios! I am considering having a gallon shipped across the Atlantic to try on both my modern car and my MGB. So I was wondering if any one here had used it. I am only looking for sound insulation not heat.


Dan B
Dan Blackwood
South Charleston, WV
(966 posts)

Registered:
11/06/2007 01:55PM

Main British Car:
1966 TR4A, 1980 TR7 Multiport EFI MegaSquirt on the TR4A. Lexus V8 pl

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Re: Sound deadening with Quiet Car
Posted by: Dan B
Date: April 30, 2010 08:59AM

I wonder how it compares to Lizard Skin.


flitner
John Fenner
Miami Fl
(168 posts)

Registered:
03/11/2010 10:58AM

Main British Car:
1972 MGB 350 CHEVY

Re: Sound deadening with Quiet Car
Posted by: flitner
Date: May 01, 2010 01:48AM

Yeah,
I'm coming up on that part too, very soon!
All I've heard of was H/F roll in bedliner.
?


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(5759 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: Sound deadening with Quiet Car
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: May 23, 2010 08:40AM

The sound deadener and heat shield type products are still relatively new and as such still enjoy a healthy price tag. This will change in time. I was researching the heat shield type products a while back and what I discovered is that they primarily use micro-beads in a paint binder. The only difference for the sound deadener would be the filler. At that time some people were buying micro beads and using their own choice of paint to mix their own at greatly reduced cost. Micro bead prices are all over the map but it is possible to buy them in bulk quite cheaply if you find a good source. Probably cheap $20 a gallon implement paint from Tractor Supply would work as well as any for the binder as long as it is compatible with your selection for color/clear coat.

I'm not certain what filler is used in the sound deadener but a little research would answer that question quickly, and whatever it is I'm quite sure it can be bought in bulk for a good price. There is no reason that the micro beads and sound deadener filler could not be combined in the same binder.

JB


mgb260
Jim Nichols
Sequim,WA
(1962 posts)

Registered:
02/29/2008 08:29PM

Main British Car:
1973 MGB roadster 260 Ford V8

Re: Sound deadening with Quiet Car
Posted by: mgb260
Date: June 07, 2010 05:22PM

Believe it or not, a lot of the Cobra guys use the foil backed insulation you buy for hot water heaters in your house. Look in Home Depot,Lowe's,etc. You will need at least 3 for firewall and floor,under hood and trunk. Probably less than $ 20 each. Not too Hi-Tech though.



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djw090
David Witham
Warwick UK
(115 posts)

Registered:
06/12/2008 11:20AM

Main British Car:
MGB 1974 and MG ZT 160 turbo 2005

Re: Sound deadening with Quiet Car
Posted by: djw090
Date: June 08, 2010 08:31AM

Jim I expect they use it to insulate against heat. I am looking at insulating against sound.


flitner
John Fenner
Miami Fl
(168 posts)

Registered:
03/11/2010 10:58AM

Main British Car:
1972 MGB 350 CHEVY

Re: Sound deadening with Quiet Car
Posted by: flitner
Date: October 06, 2010 10:55AM

Hy - Tech Thermal solutions, I picked up 2/ 5 gallon microsphere kits and got the third one free! It insulates heat and sound.
Look at the specials to get the deal,I bought enough to do the B tub and insulate the house when I paint it.
They have different size kits ( measured bagged amounts) for what you need and are very prompt at service and friendly too!

No affiliation.

www.hytechsales.com



djw090
David Witham
Warwick UK
(115 posts)

Registered:
06/12/2008 11:20AM

Main British Car:
MGB 1974 and MG ZT 160 turbo 2005

Re: Sound deadening with Quiet Car
Posted by: djw090
Date: March 14, 2012 10:12AM

If I can wake this thread up for a while, the product description in the following link talks about "sound absorbing fillers and resins". Does any one know what they might be?

[www.hytechsales.com]

Thanks.


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(5759 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: Sound deadening with Quiet Car
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: March 14, 2012 10:34AM

Might be just hype. But, at $31/gal it is priced right.

Jim


roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
(2974 posts)

Registered:
04/24/2009 11:02AM

Main British Car:
74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: Sound deadening with Quiet Car,suspicious ?
Posted by: roverman
Date: March 14, 2012 06:57PM

I am. Seems if these products were all that great, they would have decible or thermal values ? roverman.


socorob
Robbie
La
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Registered:
09/17/2009 04:42PM

Main British Car:
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series 2 Ford 2.8 V6

Re: Sound deadening with Quiet Car
Posted by: socorob
Date: March 14, 2012 10:26PM

I know a few of the hot rod guys around here swear by lizard skin. There are 2 kinds of lizard skin, 1 for heat, 1 for sound. They can both be used together but you have to put a certain one on first, then the 2nd before it dries I think. I was told the heat insulator has the microbeads and ceramic in the paint. Dont know if thats true or not. Its supposed to reduce the heat by 30% with 2 coats? Trucks just did an episode where they put the heat one on the bottom of the cab of an autox ranger they are building. They did 2 heavy coats and weighed the bucket before and after and it only added like 3-4 pounds to the truck. They also painted over it with rattle can engine paint when they were finished because they said dirt sticks to it and its hard to clean if you dont paint it with something slick.
EDIT: you also have to use a special gun to spray it, but i think it cleans up with water.



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socorob
Robbie
La
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Registered:
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Main British Car:
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series 2 Ford 2.8 V6

Re: Sound deadening with Quiet Car
Posted by: socorob
Date: March 14, 2012 10:49PM

[www.powerblocktv.com]
Here is the episode. not sure if they will let you watch it in the UK without using a proxy server or not?


74ls1tr6
Calvin Grannis
Elk Grove,CA
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Registered:
11/10/2007 10:05AM

Main British Car:
74 TR6 / 71 MGB GT TR6/Ls1 71 MGB GT/Ls1

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Re: Sound deadening with Quiet Car
Posted by: 74ls1tr6
Date: March 15, 2012 01:53AM

I can say the Lizard Skin "Sound Control", "Ceramic Heat Control" are both awesome products. We drove to MG2011 last year on a very hot day, in dead stop and go trafic on the freeway, for an 8 mile section, because of construction, and an 18 wheeler carrying bees rolled on it's side. My passanger compartment by my feet, under my legs, or by the transmission cover, we didn't fell any heat at all. My headers on both sides are not ceramic coated yet, the 2 1/2" exhaust runs under my legs, then up under my drive line. I felt under my carpet on the floor where the exhaust is on the other side,(which is 1/4" away) it was only luke warm. My engine runs best at 205 degrees, the engine compartment doesn't get rid of the heat well at all (the air can go in good, but not get out good).This stuff is amazing. I sprayed the skin everywhere I could, inside doors,fenders, trunck, firewall both sides, tub(inside underside), transmission cover (both sides), and used it as an undercoating instead of British tar.

"Yes" all the Lizard skin I sprayed was painted with several different kinds of paint in different areas of the car. You spray sound control first (I let mine dry 2 days before spraying Ceramic heat control) then the heat control after. You only need about 1/32" of each per instructions if my memory serves me right. I sprayed over the Lizard Skin with body color paint, POR chassis paint, POR heat paint, and used clear on body paint. I will be using these products on my steel hard top resto before the headliner goes in. My son and I spraryed his steel hard top on his Spit before the headliner went in, it kept the heat down on a very hot day inside. I was very surprised at how much cooler it was inside compaired to before it was sprayed with Skin.

It is water based (easy clean up) and is somewhat a fire retardent, won't burn very well, could possibly save a car from turning into an ash pile.

Can't say enough about how much I like both these products!


djw090
David Witham
Warwick UK
(115 posts)

Registered:
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Main British Car:
MGB 1974 and MG ZT 160 turbo 2005

Re: Sound deadening with Quiet Car
Posted by: djw090
Date: March 15, 2012 04:25AM

I have looked at Lizard Skin Sound Control. In the UK there is only one dealer I have found and they charge 109 per gallon. That would be USD170. As I operate on a limited budget and can source ceramic micro spheres cheaply I was planning to follow Jim Blackwood's early post and mix my own with paint. If I knew what the "sound absorbing fillers and resins" actually were I could perhaps add them to or select a paint that already contained them.


motek
George Smathers
Spokane, WA
(117 posts)

Registered:
09/12/2009 02:45PM

Main British Car:
1967 Morris Minor (48 hp @ crank!), 1971 TR6 302

Re: Sound deadening with Quiet Car
Posted by: motek
Date: March 17, 2012 03:46PM

I have both types of Lizard Skin plus a dynamat-style foil plus jet-hot coated headers. I'm not sure which of these are doing the lifting but I get NO heat inside the cabin. If it's cloudy and even 60 degrees outside I use my seat heaters.

George



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