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roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
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74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

wiper motor with "park" feature
Posted by: roverman
Date: January 18, 2012 11:21AM

This would be for Jensen Healey, but perhaps fit others ? Flare at rear of hood means wipers can hide. Suggestions ? Thanks, roverman.


DiDueColpi
Fred Key
West coast - Canada
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Re: wiper motor with "park" feature
Posted by: DiDueColpi
Date: January 18, 2012 12:59PM

Pretty common feature on 70's and 80's GM vehicles.
Would be and easy mod I would think.
Cheers
Fred


Bill Young
Bill Young
Kansas City, MO
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'73 MG Midget V6 , '59 MGA I6 2.8 GM, 4.0 Jeep

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Re: wiper motor with "park" feature
Posted by: Bill Young
Date: January 18, 2012 01:51PM

That's a good one Art, most of that type use a fairly bulky external linkage custom designed for that particular car. If you wanted to retain the cable drive as used on most British cars then I don't know where you could find a motor with that feature. Perhaps from a later Jag or such, but even the ones on the XJ8 don't really hide, just go very low on the glass which is partially behind the hood line.


socorob
Robbie
La
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1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series 2 Ford 2.8 V6

Re: wiper motor with "park" feature
Posted by: socorob
Date: January 18, 2012 10:20PM

I think on a build thread on here for a 50s alpine he used a hot rod one made by a place in Georgia I think. It was cable driven if I remember correctly.


DC Townsend
David Townsend
Vermont
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11/21/2007 12:22PM

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'78 B (almost done) 30-over SBF, dry sump

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Re: wiper motor with "park" feature
Posted by: DC Townsend
Date: January 20, 2012 04:16PM

You can use any Lucas 2-speed motor and wire it to have a park circuit. I have the wiring diagram. Pretty simple. Have used it before. Works. Requires a relay, that's it.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/25/2012 05:39AM by DC Townsend.


DiDueColpi
Fred Key
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Re: wiper motor with "park" feature
Posted by: DiDueColpi
Date: January 20, 2012 04:48PM

I was thinking more like using the GM motor and making an adapter to the cable drive.
A simple block in slide mechanism would get it done.


roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
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74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: wiper motor with "park" feature
Posted by: roverman
Date: January 20, 2012 10:57PM

David, Perhaps you could "share" the diagram ? Fred, forget the cable, I'm still thinkin bout' that 2x4/lol. roverman.



socorob
Robbie
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Re: wiper motor with "park" feature
Posted by: socorob
Date: January 23, 2012 03:23PM

[www.spwkits.com]
This one is fairly small and has self park


DC Townsend
David Townsend
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'78 B (almost done) 30-over SBF, dry sump

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Re: wiper motor with "park" feature
Posted by: DC Townsend
Date: January 24, 2012 08:26PM

Art,

Here's the diagram. This one shows it wired to a typical Lucas wiper switch but this will work with just about any 2-speed, off-on-on style switch. Sorry for the delayed response. I've been away from the forum for a few days.

David
Lucas-wiper-park-diagram.jpg


Bill Young
Bill Young
Kansas City, MO
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'73 MG Midget V6 , '59 MGA I6 2.8 GM, 4.0 Jeep

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Re: wiper motor with "park" feature
Posted by: Bill Young
Date: January 24, 2012 09:29PM

l guess I'm a little confused by what you want. Most of the later Lucas wipers have a park provision, that is they will return to the bottom of their travel when turned off. If you're looking for wipers that will extend below the lowest point of their normal range when turned off and become "hidden" then that's another item. That takes a special gearbox that will drive lower with the correct electrical input but not reach that point in normal operation. There were thousands of GM and other cars built with such gearboxes but you'd have to adapt them to a cable type system or use custom linkage.


roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
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74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: wiper motor with "park" feature
Posted by: roverman
Date: January 25, 2012 11:13AM

Bill and clan, ok "park in the basement",might be more correct. JH does park the wipers, but not in basement.Since windshield frame is close to flush with glass, this could work. Thanks, roverman.


DC Townsend
David Townsend
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'78 B (almost done) 30-over SBF, dry sump

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Re: wiper motor with "park" feature
Posted by: DC Townsend
Date: January 25, 2012 02:06PM

"If you're looking for wipers that will extend below the lowest point of their normal range when turned off and become "hidden" then that's another item."

Wow! How did you figure that out what Art was trying to do from what he wrote? I see it now, but sure didn't get it the first time around.


DiDueColpi
Fred Key
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Re: wiper motor with "park" feature
Posted by: DiDueColpi
Date: January 25, 2012 08:34PM

The GM motors just reverse the current and run backwards to "park" in a lower position.
This is done by releasing an offset bushing that re-positions the output shaft depending upon the direction of rotation of the motor.
Sounds complex but is really a simple mechanism.
Would be easy to convert to a cable drive.
My Jag used to have a similar mechanism that drove a cable, but I seem to remember it being the most expensive part on the whole car.
And it was Lucas.
And it was broken.


roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
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74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: wiper motor with "park" feature
Posted by: roverman
Date: January 26, 2012 11:08AM

Thanks for the input guys, to be honest, I haven't gotten to that system yet. I can't tell you it IS cable drive. As all the various parts and subsystems meld, in the assembly line of my mind, I "try" to plan ahead for possible stumbling blocks. Obviously this one is asthetics, but I want the look. Thanks, roverman.


roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
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74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: wiper motor with "hidden" feature, TR7/8 ?
Posted by: roverman
Date: January 30, 2012 11:23AM

Ok Triumph folks, Do TR7's/8's have "hidden wipers" feature ? Cable drive ? Thanks, roverman.



Bill Young
Bill Young
Kansas City, MO
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'73 MG Midget V6 , '59 MGA I6 2.8 GM, 4.0 Jeep

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Re: wiper motor with "park" feature
Posted by: Bill Young
Date: January 30, 2012 12:42PM

TRs are cable drive, don't have "hidden wipers" but they do drop pretty low when parked, but not below the hood line.


DC Townsend
David Townsend
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'78 B (almost done) 30-over SBF, dry sump

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Re: wiper motor with "park" feature
Posted by: DC Townsend
Date: January 30, 2012 08:24PM

Not sure if this will work with Jensen wiper arms but the Lucas arms on my Cobra clone wouldn't park parallel to the windshield. It wasn't a function problem but the way it looked always bugged me. To fix it I clamped the end of the blade in my bench vise, gently heated the stainless with a torch and then bent it to the get the desired angle. If you can visualize what I'm trying to say, wouldn't be any reason why you couldn't so the same thing - two bends, one down to get the wiper below the cowl, one at the end of the arm to get the blade parallel again.

See attached sketch.
wiper-bend.jpg



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/30/2012 08:25PM by DC Townsend.


roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
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74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: wiper motor with "park" feature
Posted by: roverman
Date: January 31, 2012 11:26AM

David, So this mod begs the question, do wipers scrub below the window mouldings on every swipe ? Bill Young answered "TR's", but my question still is,"do TR7's have a hidden park movement" ? JH has flare at rear of hood , just like TR7. , ps. Dave Craddock sent me f-glass rear deck. It's light and stiff. I think I'll need Road Racing School to tame the Beast. Thanks, roverman.


DiDueColpi
Fred Key
West coast - Canada
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Registered:
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Main British Car:
I really thought that I'd be an action figure by now!

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Re: wiper motor with "park" feature
Posted by: DiDueColpi
Date: January 31, 2012 12:07PM

Nope.
TR7s don't have a dropped park feature
Just tried it on mine.
They do however, have the worn out flexible park feature.
I can park my wipers on the car next door if needed ;)


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
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10/23/2007 12:59PM

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1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: wiper motor with "park" feature
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: January 31, 2012 08:07PM

There's got to be more to it than just reversing the motor. If that's all you did the arms would just go back up. The transmission has to have a function where reversing the motor causes the park function.

Jim
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