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Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
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04/24/2009 11:02AM

Main British Car:
74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Allagaitor Hardtop vs glossy smooth
Posted by: roverman
Date: March 25, 2012 10:15PM

As in fake vinyl top on f-glass lift-off. Plan is to grind off the "pattern" and paint body color, glossy. Problem is, it has hi/low areas that won't just sand out. Short of using 1/4" of bondo to fill, what is my best option here ? I also want to add sail panels/ flying buttresses attached seamlessly to top. Thanks, roverman.


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Curtis Jacobson
Portland Oregon
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10/12/2007 02:16AM

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71 MGBGT, Buick 215

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Re: Allagaitor Hardtop vs glossy smooth
Posted by: Moderator
Date: March 26, 2012 01:17AM

Without knowing more than you've posted, I expect the best option is to lay-up a brand new hardtop. (In other words, use the old hardtop as a "plug" and don't worry about applying Bondo to it.)


Bill Young
Bill Young
Kansas City, MO
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10/23/2007 09:23AM

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'73 MG Midget V6 , '59 MGA I6 2.8 GM, 4.0 Jeep

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Re: Allagaitor Hardtop vs glossy smooth
Posted by: Bill Young
Date: March 26, 2012 09:28AM

Art, some wavyness is to be expected from fiberglass parts unless they are very well reinforced when laid up. I'd check with Dave Craddock at Preform Resources, he's the expert with glass around here.


roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
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74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: Allagaitor Hardtop vs glossy smooth, Targa ?
Posted by: roverman
Date: March 27, 2012 11:56AM

Ultimately, I would like this to have a Targa top, (see rendition). I've had enough project migration already. I need to get the car running, without too many diversions, as I know there will be ample sorting-out to do. Onward, roverman.


Preform Resources
Dave Craddock
Redford,Michigan
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12/20/2008 05:46PM

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72 MGB V6 3.4

Re: Allagaitor Hardtop vs glossy smooth
Posted by: Preform Resources
Date: March 28, 2012 11:01AM

Art, there are a few diferent tricks you can use, if you go the bondo route, use the light weight stuff and spread it on thin and don't over catalyze it, if it's too thick or gets hot when going off it could warp the substrate, use a cheese grater(surform)
ot clean off the high spots and repeat, if you have a 9" DA sander it will make your work a little easier.
OR; you could get some West system epoxy (user friendly get it at marine supplies) and micro balloons, mix the epoxy well add micro balloons to make a paste then put it on with a squeegee, shouldn't sand too bad you will still need bondo or poly glazing putty to perfect the surface and / or ,you probably still should use a high build poly primer.

We use Duratec products for priming and surfacing our models, they have a high build base primer 707-051 and
a dark gray surfacing primer 707-002 they are in Bloomington,CA. 909-877-8477. Good luck
Dave



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roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
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74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: Allagaitor Hardtop vs glossy smooth
Posted by: roverman
Date: March 28, 2012 11:22AM

Thanks Dave and clan. Good information. I wish there was a way to safely foam/etc.,fill the air space between the outer skin and inner plastic liner, without ballooning ? Thanks,all, roverman.


NCtim
Tim Shumbera
Western North Carolina
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Re: Allagaitor Hardtop vs glossy smooth
Posted by: NCtim
Date: April 24, 2012 06:11PM

Art,

Great Stuff makes a door and window jamb sprayable foam insulation that I use all the time. It never hardens and stays pliable for years. It's not UV resistant so you it's for hidden areas. Don't use the regular stuff as it will continue to expand and that's why you don't use it around doors or windows. Get it at Home Depot or Lowes.

NCtim



roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
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74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: Allagaitor Hardtop vs glossy smooth
Posted by: roverman
Date: April 24, 2012 06:34PM

Tim, Great Stuff is not the regular stuff ? Expansion would make thr fiberglass top and plastic liner, even more wavy ! I thought of pouring in polystyrene balls before sealing the f-glass mods. Cheers, roverman.


NCtim
Tim Shumbera
Western North Carolina
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Re: Allagaitor Hardtop vs glossy smooth
Posted by: NCtim
Date: June 18, 2012 05:49PM

Geez Art,

I completely missed your reply. Sorry! Been busy. Great Stuff makes a white foam that comes in a blue can specifically for filling gaps around doors and windows in new construction. It's pliable and stops expanding when there's no more room for it to expand.

Cheers,
NCtim


roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
(2974 posts)

Registered:
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Main British Car:
74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: Allagaitor Hardtop, in f-glass vs glossy smooth
Posted by: roverman
Date: June 18, 2012 07:13PM

Thanks Tim, That's good news. I'll put that in my notes, when I get back to Hemi Healey. As for now, I've stopped practicing "random act's of mutiple auto projects". This means Huffaker GT-1, only, for now. Cheers, roverman.


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