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rficalora
Rob Ficalora
Cypress, TX
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10/24/2007 02:46PM

Main British Car:
'76 MGB w/CB front, Sebring rear, early metal dash Ford 302

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Splain it to me...
Posted by: rficalora
Date: June 05, 2015 08:40PM

I kept finding my driver door popped in the mornings. It started happening when the car sat for shorter periods but still only when it sat for 10-12 hours or more

I figured a circuit was draining voltage so it pulled half the fuses one night - still happened so put those back and pulled the other half. Same thing. So it isn't a voltage drop problem.

Then decided maybe the relay was bad. Replaced the relay and viola. Door isn't popping unexpectedly any more

What would make a defective relay trigger after sitting for more than a certain number of hours?


DiDueColpi
Fred Key
West coast - Canada
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Registered:
05/14/2010 03:06AM

Main British Car:
What if the Hokey Pokey really is what it's all about?

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Re: Splain it to me...
Posted by: DiDueColpi
Date: June 05, 2015 10:39PM

It was a spurious reverse graviton flux incident.
Aggravated by a one half earth rotational production fault.
The short answer is....
Chinese relay.....

Live like you mean it.
Fred


Jim Stabe
Jim Stabe
San Diego, Ca
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Main British Car:
1966 MGB Roadster 350 LT1 Chevy

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Re: Splain it to me...
Posted by: Jim Stabe
Date: June 05, 2015 10:53PM

They just found another way to piss us off besides hacking our computers and violating our patents.


DiDueColpi
Fred Key
West coast - Canada
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What if the Hokey Pokey really is what it's all about?

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Re: Splain it to me...
Posted by: DiDueColpi
Date: June 05, 2015 10:56PM

You mean that's not their stuff??


Jim Stabe
Jim Stabe
San Diego, Ca
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1966 MGB Roadster 350 LT1 Chevy

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Re: Splain it to me...
Posted by: Jim Stabe
Date: June 06, 2015 12:08PM

Rob, you don't need door latches. Just weld the doors shut and hop over. I actually considered that for my car at the beginning but as arthritis sets in it is not quite as appealing an idea..


pspeaks
Paul Speaks
Dallas, Texas
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07/20/2009 06:40PM

Main British Car:
1972 MGB-GT 1979 Ford 302

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Re: Splain it to me...
Posted by: pspeaks
Date: June 06, 2015 11:54PM

I thought of that too but it's much harder in a GT :-)


Paul


MGBV8
Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN
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10/23/2007 11:32PM

Main British Car:
79 MGB, Buick 215

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Re: Splain it to me...
Posted by: MGBV8
Date: June 07, 2015 12:35PM

Am I having Deja Voodoo?



rficalora
Rob Ficalora
Cypress, TX
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Registered:
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Main British Car:
'76 MGB w/CB front, Sebring rear, early metal dash Ford 302

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Re: Splain it to me...
Posted by: rficalora
Date: June 07, 2015 01:54PM

It's been a few days and the door hasn't spuriously popped, but I still don't get what would've caused even a poorly made relay to energize but only after the car sat for 10hrs or more.


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(5199 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: Splain it to me...
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: June 08, 2015 11:57AM

Simple. It's inviting you for a ride. Anyone could see that.

Jim


Preform Resources
Dave Craddock
Redford,Michigan
(347 posts)

Registered:
12/20/2008 05:46PM

Main British Car:
72 MGB V6 3.4

Re: Splain it to me...
Posted by: Preform Resources
Date: June 08, 2015 04:46PM

Rob, I think Fred was right, you prolly gotta get one of them Flux capacitors,,,, uh huh


Charles
Charles Long
McDonald, TN
(145 posts)

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09/15/2013 08:54AM

Main British Car:
1966 MGB V6 1994 Camaro 3.4L 60V6

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Re: Splain it to me...
Posted by: Charles
Date: June 09, 2015 10:16PM

Rob, do you use a fob to open the door? I do and I found that sometimes when I unlocked my truck door it would also open my B door. Just might be someone close by that got a Google wrist thingy thats openning your door. Just wrap your car in mumetal, that will cut down on the flux lines.

c-u-n indy
charles


rficalora
Rob Ficalora
Cypress, TX
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Registered:
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'76 MGB w/CB front, Sebring rear, early metal dash Ford 302

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Re: Splain it to me...
Posted by: rficalora
Date: June 09, 2015 11:23PM

I do use a fob to open the door. My first thought was a neighbor's car or garage door opener, but it started happening at other places too. And the duration till it'd pop started decreasing a bit. We're not too far from Nawlins (that'd be New Orleans for those of you not from round these parts) so I'm going with Carl's Deja Voodoo.


roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
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04/24/2009 11:02AM

Main British Car:
74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: Splain it to me...
Posted by: roverman
Date: September 07, 2015 04:46PM

First they hack our computers, and NOW our "fobs". What's next, they infiltrate our rice, at weddings ??


rficalora
Rob Ficalora
Cypress, TX
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Registered:
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'76 MGB w/CB front, Sebring rear, early metal dash Ford 302

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Re: Splain it to me...
Posted by: rficalora
Date: September 11, 2015 11:52PM

I replaced the relay before the Indy meet and thought that solved the problem. My door didn't spontaneously pop the 10 or so days we were on the trip. But, sitting in my garage, the driver door is popping on its own again!

Its funny you re-surfaced this thread today too , Roverman. My garage door opened itself last night and a couple times today too. If I believed in that stuff, I'd think some spooks were playing tricks on me!

I'm back to thinking it's RF interference from something else but not sure and not sure how to figure it out. But, I'll admit I checked my wife's aluminum foil... Not enough to wrap the car.


Jim Stabe
Jim Stabe
San Diego, Ca
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1966 MGB Roadster 350 LT1 Chevy

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Re: Splain it to me...
Posted by: Jim Stabe
Date: September 15, 2015 06:12PM

Can you change the frequency it uses? It may be close enough to a nearby garage opener, TV remote or the neighbor kid's remote control car. It's issues like you are having that made me decide against the keyless "start button" ignition on my car. Good ol' key and manual switch always works.



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Fred Key
West coast - Canada
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Registered:
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What if the Hokey Pokey really is what it's all about?

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Re: Splain it to me...
Posted by: DiDueColpi
Date: September 16, 2015 01:32AM

I put a Bluetooth recognition device into my Range Rover.
Took the security chip from my remote and glued it inside my Blackberry.
Now just walk up to the truck and it unlocks and enables the push button start once I'm inside.
When I leave I just walk away. It turns off, locks and alarms once I'm out of range. ( no pun intended)
Works perfectly.
Except when I lend it out.
I have to give my phone to whoever is using the truck.
Or when we're home.
If I leave the phone in the kitchen the truck is unlocked.
Or go camping and my phone goes dead and the truck arms and won't unlock.
Oh well, a little more work to be done.
Rob, sure does sound like some sort of interference.
To hit your car and the garage door it must be severe.
If your systems are older, analog, unsecured code or even "fiscally sensitive" (chinese)
Then even something as simple as a CB radio can set them off.
Might be time for an upgrade.

Cheers
Fred


Jim Stabe
Jim Stabe
San Diego, Ca
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Re: Splain it to me...
Posted by: Jim Stabe
Date: September 16, 2015 02:14AM

Like I said:

Good ol' key and manual switch always works.


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(5199 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: Splain it to me...
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: September 16, 2015 11:43AM

Here are some thoughts:

A convertible is only ever as secure as your soft top. If it is an expensive one, leaving the car unlocked is often a good idea.

If you leave the top down or install the tonneau, the inside door handle always works.

With poppers and shaved doors, a button in the trunk makes a handy and lockable option. No wireless needed.

A cutout relay for Ignition-on poppers-off is a good safety feature when using wireless.

Jim


rficalora
Rob Ficalora
Cypress, TX
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Main British Car:
'76 MGB w/CB front, Sebring rear, early metal dash Ford 302

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Re: Splain it to me...
Posted by: rficalora
Date: September 17, 2015 12:11AM

Quote:
Like I said:

Good ol' key and manual switch always works.

I've shaved the locks & exterior door handles, so that's not an option.

It's a two button remote, but can control 4 or 5 functions. Left button, right button, hold left or right for a few seconds, & I think hold both for a few seconds... I'm going to switch the driver door selonoid from the button it's on to one of the other ones & see if the problem goes away. No rush though, the weather is way too nice to mess with it right now.


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