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maxwedge5281
larry ingram
south carolina
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59 bn6 zz4 sbc 200 4R aod, 59bn6 302 ford, tremec

windshield wiper kit???
Posted by: maxwedge5281
Date: February 08, 2017 02:59PM

looking for suggestions for an aftermarket windshield wiper kit that will fit into an austin healey 100-6. my wipers work and mechanism is in good condition...but with only one speed and very slow, i am not sure that they would do much good even in a light shower. thanks for suggestions.


DiDueColpi
Fred Key
West coast - Canada
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Re: windshield wiper kit???
Posted by: DiDueColpi
Date: February 08, 2017 03:12PM

If your linkage is good, then give some thought to upgrading the motor only.
I think something like the 2 speed one from a TR6 is a virtual bolt-in.


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
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Re: windshield wiper kit???
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: February 08, 2017 04:45PM

Any upgrades for the MGB wiper motor?

Jim


DiDueColpi
Fred Key
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Re: windshield wiper kit???
Posted by: DiDueColpi
Date: February 08, 2017 08:53PM

If it's more power you need the only one I know of Jim, is the Rover 3500, Triumph Stag, Jag xj motor.
It's a two speed and it's a 16w vs the more common 9,12 or 14w units.
The "w" does not indicate wattage. The number indicates the length of the motor if I recall correctly.
The longer motors are of course more powerful.
Make sure that you check the drive gear # before you install the motor. As they come in many different strokes.
The numbers start @95 for the shortest stroke up to 130 for the longest.
All of the actual gear portions are the same so you can just swap in your old one if its in good shape.
Having said all that the B wiper motor should be more than up to the task. If it's struggling you probably have a bind somewhere or possibly just be due for a rebuild.

Cheers
Fred


maxwedge5281
larry ingram
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Re: windshield wiper kit???
Posted by: maxwedge5281
Date: February 09, 2017 05:26AM

fred, can you be a bit more specific about the tr6 wiper motor. i assume you are suggesting just the motor...separate from the drive assembly and bolt this motor onto that. also is it a two speed assembly.? i would prefer this over an aftermarket kit. thanks, maxwedge5281


DiDueColpi
Fred Key
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Re: windshield wiper kit???
Posted by: DiDueColpi
Date: February 09, 2017 12:15PM

It is a two speed Larry.
And you do just bolt it up to the existing drive cable assy.
The wiring is very simple and I believe that the tr6 switch fits your dash without modification.
When you're hunting for one check the wires going into the motor itself. The two speed units have three wires instead of two.
Also check the motor case. You want a round one instead of the squarish one and a 14w or higher number stamped on it.

Cheers
Fred


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Carl Floyd
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Re: windshield wiper kit???
Posted by: MGBV8
Date: February 09, 2017 12:17PM

Rain-X ;)



maxwedge5281
larry ingram
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Re: windshield wiper kit???
Posted by: maxwedge5281
Date: February 09, 2017 12:31PM

thank you fred. maybe a two speed motor and rain-x might just do the trick!


maxwedge5281
larry ingram
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Re: windshield wiper kit???
Posted by: maxwedge5281
Date: February 09, 2017 01:47PM

fred, i just took my wiper motor, transmission and wiper boxes out. and, the healey wiper motor is "squarish" which causes me to ask ...will the round motor bolt up properly to the healey wiper transmission? sorry to question your comment but it does seem that the round is maybe wrong. thanks, larry


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Fred Key
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Re: windshield wiper kit???
Posted by: DiDueColpi
Date: February 09, 2017 03:10PM

The connection is the same.
The square motors are a wound field coil design while the round motors are a much more powerful permanent magnet style.


maxwedge5281
larry ingram
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Re: windshield wiper kit???
Posted by: maxwedge5281
Date: February 09, 2017 06:11PM

fred, if i understand you are saying use the entire tr6 motor and transmission assembly and just hook up the healey drive cable and wiper boxes. i was thinking that the tr6 motor would be bolted to the healey transmission and drive apparatus. looking at part numbers in the moss catalogue shows the same part number for the drive cable and the nut that secures the tubular housing to transmission.


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Fred Key
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Re: windshield wiper kit???
Posted by: DiDueColpi
Date: February 09, 2017 06:23PM

That's the idea Larry.
Swapping motors on transmissions is possible, but only on like styles. IE square to square or round to round.
Much easier to use the complete assy.


tbo
Tim Body
St Thomas Ontario
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1954 Triumph TR2 stock 2 litre

Re: windshield wiper kit???
Posted by: tbo
Date: February 09, 2017 10:03PM

Has the wiper mechanism been taken apart and cleaned? I had mine done on my TR6 and all the built up gunk of fourty years was removed from the cable and tube and everything worked like new. Just a thought.


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Fred Key
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Re: windshield wiper kit???
Posted by: DiDueColpi
Date: February 16, 2017 12:52PM

Here you go Larry.
mgb-wiper-washer-od-wiring-diagram.png
I don't know who to credit the image to. It is not mine, just found it on the world wide interweb.


The G/K wires, both at the switch and the motor are ignition power + (G/K = Green/ Pink)
The G/K wire to the motor can be constant power if you wish. This will let the wipers park with the ignition off.
The N/LG wire is power out from the motor to the switch to enable parking. Do not supply power to this wire, it will melt the parking switch. (N/LG = Brown / Light Green)
The R/LG wire is slow speed ( R/LG = Red / Light Green)
The U/LG wire is fast speed ( U/LG = Blue / Light Green)
The B wire is ground both at the switch and the motor. ( B = Black)

For parking purposes, When the wiper switch is in the park position the N/LG wire is connected to the R/LG wire. In all other positions the N/LG wire must remain disconnected as it alternates between power and ground to park the motor.

Hope that helps.
Fred


maxwedge5281
larry ingram
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Re: windshield wiper kit???
Posted by: maxwedge5281
Date: February 16, 2017 05:23PM

fred, thank you so much for the diagram. i think that i will buy a tr6 wiper motor switch and place it under the dash within reach and hidden. then provide switched power to the proper terminal on the motor and switch and run this from my healey wiper switch on the dash. i can use the healey swich to provide power for the wipers. im not sure that i want to tackle wiring in a three way toggle switch. does this make sense?



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Fred Key
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Re: windshield wiper kit???
Posted by: DiDueColpi
Date: February 16, 2017 09:11PM

Give this a try Larry.
IMGP9870.JPG

You can retain the original wiper switch for the Healey and it will turn the wipers on and off as well as provide the park feature.
The SPDT switch can be hidden. It is used to choose between high and low speeds.
Keeps the stock look and only requires one relay and a switch to work.

Cheers
Fred


maxwedge5281
larry ingram
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Re: windshield wiper kit???
Posted by: maxwedge5281
Date: February 17, 2017 07:38AM

thanks fred. i will do that and see how it works. i already have the healey switch, three way toggle and plenty of wire. im sure that the relay is much cheaper than a tr6 switch. and, i can purchase the relay locally. ill let you know how it works..larry


maxwedge5281
larry ingram
south carolina
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Re: windshield wiper kit???
Posted by: maxwedge5281
Date: February 17, 2017 11:24AM

fred, is there any reason that the wipers and motor would not function properly if the motor was located on the passenger side as opposed to the drivers side as on the healey. the mounting shelf on the healey is not a very friendly location for the wiper motor. thoughts???


DiDueColpi
Fred Key
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Re: windshield wiper kit???
Posted by: DiDueColpi
Date: February 17, 2017 12:20PM

The wipers will work just fine no matter which end the motor is mounted on.
The only issue that will crop up is that the wipers will now park on the opposite side now that the motor is switched around.
You can remedy that by rotating the wiper gear boxes 180'.
While you're moving the motor you also have the option of lengthening, shortening or modifying the shape of the drive cable housing as needed.
You also have the option of changing the wiper gears or the transmission gear to modify the sweep angle of the wipers.

Live like you mean it.
Fred


maxwedge5281
larry ingram
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Re: windshield wiper kit???
Posted by: maxwedge5281
Date: February 19, 2017 12:34PM

fred, i bench wired the motor and switches and the motor works fine. i have to determine a passenger side mounting platform but i think it will be easier than trying to modify the original healey mount on the drivers side. thanks again and i may still have a question or two about parking position!!! got to get the motor mount determined and fabricated now....is there a position for the motor drive gear. i had to buy the motor and drive gear seperately do i position the drive gear in any special relationship to the wiper housing?



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