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BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
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1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Electric windows
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: January 09, 2009 10:05AM

I saw the photo of the dor of Martyn Harvey's project and he seems to have a different sort of electric window setup. So what's the latest?

Jim

Here is the link to Rob's electric window thread:

[forum.britishv8.org]



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rficalora
Rob Ficalora
Willis, TX
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10/24/2007 02:46PM

Main British Car:
'76 MGB w/CB front, Sebring rear, early metal dash Ford 302

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Re: Electric windows
Posted by: rficalora
Date: January 09, 2009 06:27PM

He used a unit from some sort of Toyota pick-up if I recall (could be way off on that, just what I seem to recall).

I got the AutoLoc ones (PW5500). The motor can be remoted. Haven't installed them yet; hope to soon. Will let you know how they work out if you're not past this by then!


harv8
Martyn Harvey
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
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10/23/2007 10:09PM

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MGB Rover V8, TVR Chevy V8, MGB GT Ford V8

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Re: Electric windows
Posted by: harv8
Date: January 09, 2009 07:03PM

I thought I'd try this set up from Victoria British. It was quite inexpensive and on sale when I bought it some time last winter.
It is a very easy installation. I hope it's going to be reliable.


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
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Re: Electric windows
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: January 10, 2009 12:14PM

Any photos you guys could post would be a big benefit.

Jim


74ls1tr6
Calvin Grannis
Elk Grove,CA
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74 TR6 / 71 MGB GT TR6/Ls1 71 MGB GT/Ls1

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Re: Electric windows
Posted by: 74ls1tr6
Date: January 10, 2009 01:01PM

I have the ones from BV. I will dig them out, take several photos for you today Jim, and post.


rficalora
Rob Ficalora
Willis, TX
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'76 MGB w/CB front, Sebring rear, early metal dash Ford 302

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Re: Electric windows
Posted by: rficalora
Date: January 10, 2009 07:04PM

May be installing mine this week; will take pics if i do.


74ls1tr6
Calvin Grannis
Elk Grove,CA
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Re: Electric windows
Posted by: 74ls1tr6
Date: January 10, 2009 08:48PM

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74ls1tr6
Calvin Grannis
Elk Grove,CA
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Re: Electric windows
Posted by: 74ls1tr6
Date: January 10, 2009 08:50PM

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74ls1tr6
Calvin Grannis
Elk Grove,CA
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Re: Electric windows
Posted by: 74ls1tr6
Date: January 10, 2009 08:53PM

Made in Taiwan---------------------<

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rficalora
Rob Ficalora
Willis, TX
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Re: Electric windows
Posted by: rficalora
Date: January 11, 2009 12:25AM

That's the sort typically referred to as a "Universal" kit by the Hot Rod vendors isn't it Calvin? I read mixed reviews on those when I was researching. Most folks with smaller/lighter windows seemed to think they worked well; folks with heavier/older cars & those with tight cranking regulators had trouble with them. I'll be interested to hear how they work for you.


74ls1tr6
Calvin Grannis
Elk Grove,CA
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Re: Electric windows
Posted by: 74ls1tr6
Date: January 11, 2009 01:20AM

This one came from British Victoria. I don't know if it will work for the TR6 at this point. It hasn't even seen a door yet. It will be interesting and will let all know how it goes. Probably will make better parts for it it the end, or even go a different route.

Taiwan made Hmmm!


MGBV8
Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN
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10/23/2007 11:32PM

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79 MGB, Buick 215

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Re: Electric windows
Posted by: MGBV8
Date: January 11, 2009 09:29AM

Interesting that y'all are adding weight with this mod.

A local club member plans to do track days at VIR. He welded in a a really tall roll bar & stripped out the door guts. It's amazing how light an MGB door is without the window glass & regulator! Hmmm. :)


74ls1tr6
Calvin Grannis
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Re: Electric windows
Posted by: 74ls1tr6
Date: January 11, 2009 10:26AM

Agree on added weight. Just need to make another car for autoX ("dreaming")

I know if I was single and didn't have a wife, my build would be way lighter without all the ceature comforts added, so to even make the build, needed to sell her on the idea first, but had to add what she wanted. Have learned if wife is not happy, no one happy! :-)


rficalora
Rob Ficalora
Willis, TX
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'76 MGB w/CB front, Sebring rear, early metal dash Ford 302

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Re: Electric windows
Posted by: rficalora
Date: January 11, 2009 11:16AM

The AutoLoc PW5500 I'm bought (yet to install) keeps the glass, but loses the regulator... The replacement track, motor, cable is probably 1/3 the weight of the MG regulator. But, i think the glass is where the real weight is.


MGBV8
Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN
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79 MGB, Buick 215

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Re: Electric windows
Posted by: MGBV8
Date: January 11, 2009 12:15PM

Quote:
Have learned if wife is not happy, no one happy! :-)

Words of wisdom for all husbands. Know it, learn it, live it!


Rob,

You're right. Hmmm, I don't use my windows much anyway, so maybe the hot ticket would be your lightweight power windows plus lexan. End result, lighter & that window crank handle will be out of my knee's way for good!



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Curtis Jacobson
Portland Oregon
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10/12/2007 02:16AM

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71 MGBGT, Buick 215

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Re: Electric windows
Posted by: Moderator
Date: January 11, 2009 12:31PM

When I worked for Volvo Trucks (and "WhiteGMC"), we were building such wide truck cabs that there was no possibility a driver could manually roll down a passenger-side window without standing up and walking over. We always offered two power-window options: you could get a motor on just the far-side window or on both. (On the earlier model trucks you could get either air or electric windows - so actually four options!)

An MGB or a TR6 is so narrow that the usual main reason for power windows is gone, at least for gorilla-armed people like me. This Sprite owner retrofitted MkI (bugeye) doors to his MkII to lose window weight: [www.britishv8.org] To each their own!


Jahdave
David Cousins
Campbell, California
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09/13/2008 02:15AM

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1977 MGB Rover 3.5 V8

Re: Electric windows
Posted by: Jahdave
Date: January 24, 2009 07:47PM

I used a set that I bought from Moss Europe. They work well and have been installed for 5 years now. I cannot remember how much I paid for them, but I do recall that they were an easy installation. The window regulator is now out of my way on the door. I'll post pics soon.


Bruce Mills
Bruce Mills
Vancouver Canada
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11/28/2007 09:31PM

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1974.5 MGB Roadster 3.5 Rover

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Re: Electric windows
Posted by: Bruce Mills
Date: February 16, 2009 01:06AM

Where about are you electric window guys running the wiring into the door.

The reason I ask is I shaved my door handles and the looms I used (SS Braided door looms) failed very quickly and I am looking for a better idea

Thanks


Bruce


Bill Young
Bill Young
Kansas City, MO
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10/23/2007 09:23AM

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'73 MG Midget V6 , '59 MGA I6 2.8 GM, 4.0 Jeep

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Re: Electric windows
Posted by: Bill Young
Date: February 16, 2009 08:50AM

Bruce, anytime you place wiring where it will flex you will have failures. Probably the most reliable contact for power windows and door locks is through a spring loaded contact strip such as then ones sold by Painless Performance. The windows and doors will only work when the doors are closed, but then you shouldn't need to operate them when open anyway. They make a 5 contact strip suitable for a door with electric windows, power locks, and a doom light switch. [www.painlessperformance.com]
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rficalora
Rob Ficalora
Willis, TX
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Re: Electric windows
Posted by: rficalora
Date: February 16, 2009 11:52PM

By the way, I worked on the AutoLoc PW5500's today... no good. Channel can be cut down to fit with the motor remoted, but there's no place it'll fit... it's too big to fit between the glass & the inner door panel. I'm back to the Moss sissor type regulator as the only good alternative.
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