Moderator Curtis Jacobson Portland Oregon (4577 posts) Registered: 10/12/2007 02:16AM Main British Car: 71 MGBGT, Buick 215 |
Group 44 TR8?
I'm collecting any information I can get about the Group 44 TR8 racecars, or about replicas of them.
Can you help me? Photos would be especially helpful. I know next to nothing about these cars. Did anyone have their camera with them when the British V8 2001 meet was at Sebring FL and the Group 44 hanger was toured? Here are three snapshots that may refresh your memory... |
MGBV8 Carl Floyd Kingsport, TN (4513 posts) Registered: 10/23/2007 11:32PM Main British Car: 1979 MGB Buick 215 |
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I may have taken a pic of it in the hanger/museum. I don't think I had a digital camera then. Jack Renaud took a lot of pics.
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kayakjack John Renaud Michigan (35 posts) Registered: 10/23/2007 01:46PM Main British Car: 1980 MGB V8 Buick/Rover 3.5L |
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Hi, Curtis & Carl, I finally found my 2001 Sebring pics but the only Group 44 cars
were a couple Jags & part of a Triumph. Sorry! Ted Schumacher was very involved with Triumph. His site is: [www.tsimportedautomotive.com] Maybe he could help you, Curtis. Regards, Jack |
Group44registry Rick Ostman Rockledge, FL (4 posts) Registered: 06/13/2008 12:58PM Main British Car: Group 44 TR-8 (crew) & 4.0 V-8 (TR-8), 3.0 I-6 (MGC GT) |
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Curtis-
I am lucky (maybe even skilled enough) to be on the crew for Bill Warner's Group 44 TR-8 and TR-6. Got lots of pics of both cars. I also maintain the Group 44 Registry. Drop me a line sometime. -Rick |
Group44registry Rick Ostman Rockledge, FL (4 posts) Registered: 06/13/2008 12:58PM Main British Car: Group 44 TR-8 (crew) & 4.0 V-8 (TR-8), 3.0 I-6 (MGC GT) |
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Allan-
Lanocha Racing took molds off Bill Warner's Group 44 TR-8 for their body kit, so I know it's accurate. We use the Lanocha kit pieces as spares for the race car, so I'll go out on a limb and say if it fits the real Group 44 TR-8, it will be the look you're looking for. Little bit of TR-8 body trivia.... Lanky Foushee told me that the nose piece is modified from a Trans-Am Porsche 934 chin that Group 44 found in a dumpster at Daytona. The roof spoiler (really only needed at slow speed tracks) is narrowed from a BMW 3.0 CSL roof spoiler. The fender flares and trunk spoiler came from Group 44. -RIck |
WedgeWorks1 Mike Perkins Ellicott City, Maryland (460 posts) Registered: 07/06/2008 08:07AM Main British Car: 1980 Triumph TR8 3.5 Litre Rover V8 |
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Curtis-
Here are a few pictures from the Sebring 2001 British V8 Meet. I was fortunate enough to have Bob Tullius let me take a look at, in around......under the car. I over 100 pictures of the group 44 TR8s from vintage up to about 5 years ago. I also work with Tim Lanocha of Lanocha Racing so I know the body panels very well and chat with Jay Fox who was on Lanky's crew who still knows how to remake the fiberglass panels the Group 44 way! Michael and a teaser! |
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Mr. T Tony Andrews Kent Island, Maryland (153 posts) Registered: 10/23/2007 03:59PM Main British Car: '75 mgb, '74 grille, morspeed bumpers Rover 3.9 |
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Whoa...where did you guys come from (Curtis - you just turned on the lights in the kitchen!)? Great to here from you all!!
Michael - Talked to Tim about a month ago about dyno tuning my 3.9/carb and exploring supercharger/fi over the winter. Regards, Tony |
Moderator Curtis Jacobson Portland Oregon (4577 posts) Registered: 10/12/2007 02:16AM Main British Car: 71 MGBGT, Buick 215 |
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Michael, these pictures are awesome - thank you for posting them!
(Can I beg you for a CD-ROM of the rest of the collection?) I'm scheming to collect and publish a whole huge bunch of information on TR8 and especially TR8 racers! I don't know if you guys noticed the "special sections" we've run in the last two editions of our online magazine regarding MG's "factory" MGB GT V8? (20+ articles and 200+ photos, I think.) Ideally, I'd like to do something like that about TR8. Wouldn't it be cool if we could show all sorts of construction and preparation details of the race cars, and also back them up with detailed captions. The thing is, I don't know much about TR8 or racing... so I need to recruit volunteers to do it right. |
Mr. T Tony Andrews Kent Island, Maryland (153 posts) Registered: 10/23/2007 03:59PM Main British Car: '75 mgb, '74 grille, morspeed bumpers Rover 3.9 |
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Michael - Please keep us updated on your Works/TR7 replica project...very cool!
Curtis - Check out Michael's project at LanochaRacing/Arsenal (if you haven't already). |
MGBV8 Carl Floyd Kingsport, TN (4513 posts) Registered: 10/23/2007 11:32PM Main British Car: 1979 MGB Buick 215 |
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Hi Michael. Good to see you here. I remember kidding you & Tim about bringing a donor car to Sebring. I really was kidding.
I gotta say this is one awesome Triumph Wedge: |
WedgeWorks1 Mike Perkins Ellicott City, Maryland (460 posts) Registered: 07/06/2008 08:07AM Main British Car: 1980 Triumph TR8 3.5 Litre Rover V8 |
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Thanks Guys!
I remember all the comments at Sebring in 2001 about the donor cars. I figure its stranger that my TR8 coupe is going to be converted to a Works Rally replica TR7 V8......not a TR8! This is my first posting in a forum so far it is pretty fun getting some of these pictures out and into circulation! I have some more pictures that are really pieces of Group 44 History. The paint, numbers & stripes are still wet from the first paint job! First drive in the Sterling, Va Group 44 Shop around May of 1979 (XJS Group 44 Jaguar is in the background) Lime Rock in 1979 |
WedgeWorks1 Mike Perkins Ellicott City, Maryland (460 posts) Registered: 07/06/2008 08:07AM Main British Car: 1980 Triumph TR8 3.5 Litre Rover V8 |
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Curtis -
I can get a CD together for you on the Wedgies! I do know a lot about the cars after working with Woody Cooper and now Tim Lanocha. The TR8 Coupe I have now is British car #53. Lets say back in the early to mid-90ies cars were dirt cheap! I was honored to meet Lanky Foushee at his North Carolina shop when we was restoring Bill Warner's #4 Group 44 TR8. I got to take pictures under the car, inside and a majority of the parts as they were struned around his shop. I have a good archive of other competition TR8s, so enjoy the flash back to 1980! Huffaker TR8s Ken Slagle TR8 Janspeed LeMans TR8 with 2 Works Rally TR7V8s in the back ground! ........Group 44 TR8 |
WedgeWorks1 Mike Perkins Ellicott City, Maryland (460 posts) Registered: 07/06/2008 08:07AM Main British Car: 1980 Triumph TR8 3.5 Litre Rover V8 |
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Glen-
This is all too interesting! I would love to tell you I took the pictures but seeing how I would have been 7 years old at the time would be quite impressive to anyone! I will tell you the pictures are from Jay Fox and his brother! Some of my others I have collected over the years. The one of the first day roll out is the same of my "first drive". The molds are awesome! A work with a guy who now owns all of the molds including the doors which no one ever used. I can make both you and Curtis a deal............get all you can scanned and put onto a CD and I will burn one of all my past & present Group 44 pictures to you and also Curtis after I get a mailing address and get you mine. Glen did you know that is going to be a Group 44 reunion at the Amelia Island Concourse in 2009? I would also love to have you autograph my dealer poster if it is possible of some other pictures. I got Dick Gilmartin, Lanky & Bob so far on seperate pictures and the Dealer poster has Bob & Lanky. Here are some pictures of the molds that Lanky said were the original molds and the start of a project car that is now finished. I hope to hear back from you soon or see some more pictures! |
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WedgeWorks1 Mike Perkins Ellicott City, Maryland (460 posts) Registered: 07/06/2008 08:07AM Main British Car: 1980 Triumph TR8 3.5 Litre Rover V8 |
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mowog1 Rick Ingram Central Illinois (1523 posts) Registered: 10/17/2007 09:36PM Main British Car: 1974.5 MGB/GT 3.9l Rover |
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I drank a couple of pints with Bob Tullius at the bar at the Chateau Elan after the "banquet" at MGV8 2001 in Sebring.
He's quite a gentleman. We talked primarily WWII warbirds. |
WedgeWorks1 Mike Perkins Ellicott City, Maryland (460 posts) Registered: 07/06/2008 08:07AM Main British Car: 1980 Triumph TR8 3.5 Litre Rover V8 |
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