Steering, Suspension, & Brakes

Mike, when you relocated the controller. Did you uplug either end or did you cut and splice the white and blue wires? I am doing my car now, with your OK I will post some pictures and HIDIDIT.
charles

Calvin,
These EPS units are so perfect for our cars. The price and availability make them very attractive. It is going to be helpful to have the whole column for tubes and shaft parts. I took mine back out of the my car to make some final measurements in case I need to build a couple more units. Not sure what kind of picture you want, but I can surely make it happen. Let me know.

Charles,
I didn't want disturb the factory connections on the boards, so I cut and spliced the white and blue wires using small speaker wire. Be careful of matching them back up. They are position sensors. One pair is for the right turn and one pair is for left turn. Mixing them up is not good! I soldered and heat shrunk the joints for security. I made them quite long and tie wrapped them close to the ends as to keep them from pulling on the factory connections.

I have a column out of a GT in stock that I'm going to convert. I have found the over all length is different on the earlier columns compared to the later rubber bumper columns. Keep me posted on your progress. I'll help any way I can.
Capt'n

Mike, thanks. I am using the slip joint top and bottom, that way measurements do not need to be precise. That does add the extra ujoint that has to be handled
I found out the hard way, those little white and blue wires do not unplug, they are soldered at both ends. I made a quick trip to Pull-A-Part this past Sat. at 23F for replacement. Did you know those places are not heated?
See you in Indy.
charles

Mike,
This steering setup calls for a write up on this site. It would be awesome for all who want this type of steering. I may do the write up for the TR6 side. It would be good with lots of photo's and how it was done. I'm sure a lot would step on over to side of power steering the electric way.

I need to go back and pick up the top side of the steering wheel assembly, witch are probably still there at the recycle yard in the car, if not there is two more cars at close by yards.

Yes, a comprehensive writeup would be excellent, I'm sure this will become a hit. But just the info you guys have posted already is great.

Jim

The car that really needs this is a TR7. Small steering wheel and a little hard to steer. TR8s came with factory power steering, but those racks are as rare as hen's teeth.

Jim, I believe Dan is trying to tell you something. ;)

Yeah we've talked about this. But first things first, Edith is threatening to jack the rent up on him.

Jim

Charles,
When you get ready to wire the unit up, the control box needs to be grounded . I just ran a small wire to the cover screw. Under the cover you can see the board has a ground on that screw.
Mike

Mike, thanks, I kinda thought that. Had some challenges getting my contoller. Almost gave up and made my own vss controller till I discovered its CAN data.
Are you going to do a write-up? I have taken lots of pictures and taken measurement so If you do not want to I may.
charles

Knock your self out! I'm more of a talker, than a writer.
I haven't checked on the progress of the guy building the VSS controller lately. He was trying to get it to market soon.
Mike

Are you not using the controller ordered from the internet? There is another one? I found out that I have a nephew that is now working for a firm in Germany that is making EPS units. He lives on MI and now in France working on an issue. When he returns I will quiz him.
I have read some on the two purple wires goin to the controller, appears they may be CAN data. i think the sensors that are monitored by the car ECM are speed, brakes, turning or not, stability control, and maybe a couple others. Straight-up learning again. Adaptive EPS responce for our cars may be a bit much.
I will start a write-up soon with pictures and measurements.
charles

Charles, if it's tied into the CAN bus that probably means it takes commands to modify steering boost based on vehicle speed. Not a bad feature when you think about what you need for parking and for cruising. This could probably be made to work out well with the MegaSquirt controller that a number of us use without too much difficulty since it is already set up for CAN bus communication.

Jim

Jim B, I now find another write-up saying serial data from the ECM to determine speed. Some guy on another site is working on a Yaris unit that uses VSS. Someone else is working on a different controller but facing legal stuff. Who knows? I want my set-up working then re-engineer.

Mike M, I did recieve my Bruno controller and have started connecting it, did not work at first. I found that second shift had left a cold solder joint, good help getting hard to find. Fixed that, now working. I have almost completed the set-up then I will start a write-up.

charles

That's great Charles.

I'm working on the TR6 steering column. The difference is the TR6 column is aluminum. So I'm waiting for different size's of aluminum so I can weld the steering wheel side of the column together, and the bottom side of the column.

It will be great to see your write up!

Calvin, "I am watching you". Brenda's GT is looking good. I just wish i hadn't been asleep on the fuel tank.
charles
PS see you in Indy

Charles, My controller is the Bruno. I better look closer at the joints! What column did you end up using?

There is a guy on the Mustang forum trying to build and sell an auto type controller. He started with the Bruno and has developed his own. In August, it wasn't on the market yet. I haven't checked lately.

Calvin, Brenda's car is going to be epic!

Mike

Mike, I am using the 77 B column , upper and lower. On the B I cut the upper just after the lock portion. On the Vue portion I cut at a point so the dia. of both pieces were about the same. Then I had my machine true and weld.


On the lower sections I cut the B shaft about 8 inches from the u-joint splines. On the Vue shaft below the u-joint I cut leaving about 4-5 inches, then I had the machine shop machine the lower portion to slip fit inside the B shaft.


When all installation is done I will drill thru both lower shafts then bolt and lock nut.
charles

After reading this Forum Topic I too got interested and this is what I came up with. I used a 2005 Equinox Electric Power Steering (EPAS) and the Bruno controller. Using Mikes pictures to start the project, I patterned my column after his. Removing the steering control from the unit and lengthening the wires allowed the re-location and addition of a heat sinc. I tried to attach as many pictures showing the steer column modifications and the final install.

Needless to say, It appears to function great. If anyone needs more info or more pictures, let me know.










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