The BritishV8 Pub

Since the Cleveland V8 show in 2000, I've only missed Sebring (2001) and I hate to spoil the streak - so, any show East of the Great Divide works for me....That way, if the car breaks down, I can coast home.

You missed a great time in Sebring, Graham!

Looks like this thread is about due for some updated info...

YEAH! Why is all of the info about BRITISHV8 2014 on the MG E site? Not a word of it over here? What's up with that?

Jim

Back in Townsend again, right?

There is discussion of 2014 being in Colorado. Looks to be a good venue.

Colorado would be neat, but Curtis would need some help and our membership is kind of thin out that way. 2013 is coming along nicely, made contact with the kart track and that is looking very good for us. Now just need to line up some tech sessions and a few restaraunts and we'll be in business. Planning a trip up to Omaha after I retire in August to select a host hotel and restaraunts and finalize some other details.

Larry Barnes is planning to host it in Colorado Springs.

[www.mgexperience.net]

Sounds great Dan. I hadn't seen the post on the other board. Either the Midget or the Jag will be there in 14.

Trust me, Bill.

Trust me.

Rick, sorry I had a lapse of faith, especially after you've backed three loosers in the tournament so far! Jab , jab. I think that's one I'll have to bring Jenny to, but I hope she'll be in Omaha next year to help me and keep me company.

But I did pick kentucky over kansas, Bill!

mgexperience?

Yes, MG Experience.

Not all of us are MG guys. Is the prospective 2014 host trying to exclude us "inferior" marques, or does he have something against this site?

Yeah I've been remiss about posting details here. Thanks to Dan for reminding me.

British V8 2014
Location: Colorado Springs
Dates: June 15 - June 18

I've got mostly set in mud commitments on hotel costs, a group rate discount on the Pikes Peak toll road. A run to the Bucksnort saloon. and a wild west evening meal and entertainment at the Flying W ranch. Working on a drive through at the Air Force academy and some other such diversions.

Excellent!

I'll make my calendar now to "save the date"!

Guess he didn't really answer your question....

Judging from the scuttlebutt during the Texas meet there is an issue about where the meet is going to be in 2014. Nobody seems to know who Larry Barnes is, he has only made one single post on this forum, and he has never been to a BritishV8 meet. These factors are causing a lot of concern for many participants of the yearly meet. I personally am aware that he is a regular participant on the MGE forum and seems to enjoy a decent reputation there, and it is true that in the early days of the group MGE was one of the two primary forums used to discuss matters related to the yearly meets (I've forgotten the name of the other one.) but there was and have always been two huge problem with continuing this practice after the formation of the BritishV8 site. You will recall that the BritishV8 Newsletter was the de-facto semi-official source for all BritishV8 plans, and before that all MGB-V8 plans, as founded by Kurt Schley, and it was very much through Kurt's efforts that the meets were organized. I don't think there is any question in anyone's mind that the BritishV8 website is the legitimate heir to everything the BritishV8 Newsletter was or had aspirations to become.

So here is the gist of the problems:

First, no or minimal notice has been given here on what has to now be considered the official BritishV8 website. True, one post has been made, but by someone nobody seems to know or to have met, in the middle of a thread he did not start, and with NO follow-up. At least so far other than me, nobody has vouched for Larry, and I have never met the man. That by itself is problem enough, but when you consider that we typically send seed money to the organizer of the next year's event, and sometimes a considerable sum, it is clear that we have an economic interest in performing due diligence to see to it that certain standards are met. I'm not saying Larry might make off with the money, just that it sets a very bad precedent and some day somebody might. I would not want to be the guy who sent that check, and I know for sure that Bill doesn't. My most sincere apologies to Larry, and I honestly admire your intentions, but things must be done in the proper manner as I'm sure you can appreciate.

At the same time, Steve Carrick, proprietor of Advance Auto Wire, a very essential and important BritishV8 vendor and someone known to all of us, well respected, and of impeccable credentials and reputation, has been planning to host BritishV8 2014 in Michigan. Who would I send the check to? You shouldn't even need to ask.

The second problem, is that if we are going to claim to be an organization that welcomes all makes of British sports cars, then we'd damned sure better act like it. That does NOT mean that we can go around organizing a meet on the website of a single marque that others do not go to. That is EXACTLY what is going on here with MGE and to be honest, I'm mad as hell about it. I know quite a few others are too. If it is going to be an MG event that is one thing, but if so, we can't stand idly by and let it be called BritishV8 2014, because it isn't, and you can't expect Triumph, Jag, or any of the other makes to attend. And you DAMNED sure can't send seed money from BritishV8 2013.

That's all I have to say about it, but somebody had better post a link over on MGE and get Larry and his friends over here to discuss the issues and come to a resolution because I know for a fact some of us are going to be making plans to be in Michigan.

Jim

Geez.

Jim....I've already been in contact with Larry; I'm on board with him with advise and offers of assistance.

A post such as this is detrimental to the success of the event.....and can very possibly alienate not only Larry, but any other enthusiast who might be willing to host an event....but has not yet stepped up to the plate for fear of ....well....this type of reception.

You say that others are "mad as hell"....who stoked that fire, Jim?

LET IT GO....I know that there was considerable "discussion" at BritishV8 2012 regarding this topic....even though NO ONE bothered to talk with me/ask me at the time (gee, I wonder why?) I found out about these discussions on Tuesday and chose not to say anything. I know that alternative locations and hosts have already been kicked around for discussion. I squealched one discussion at the banquet on Wednesday night as there were completely uneducated comments being made about the event, its location, and its coordinator.

This type of behaviour really disappoints me out of this group of enthusiasts.

You have to remember....any one of us who have coordinated this event was a newbie the first time around.

It's hard enough to get volunteers to host these events.....why make it even harder?????

Larry will have plenty of assistance in planning this event; the area is fantastic; we've never been there before; we have enthusiasts who reside west of the Rockies who just may be more likely to register and attend this event.

What's the problem?

Could it be that the event is not in your back yard???

What will your reaction be if Calvin Grannis or Bill Guzman plans a BritishV8 event in the future.

BritishV8 events are not tied to BritishV8.org...both BritishV8.org and the MGExperience.net are used as tools to communicate with each other.

It's up to us to cross-reference informational posts found on other Bulletin Boards.....not bad-mouth them. Coordination....not defamation....is the key here.

Larry was simply more familiar with the MGE...hehas NOT made a LOT of posts regarding BritishV8 2014...we do have to get through BritishV8 2013 first!

Larry, if you read this thread/post, please let me be the first to apologize regarding its tone. I feel that others owe you an apology as well.

I have confidence in you....BritishV8 2014 will be an enjoyable, successful event.

Posted with complete sincerity along with disappointment and amazement.....

rick