MG Sports Cars

Make it happen Jacques

Use a pre-gov't LS engine , Jacques. ;)

BTW, looks like Jim's measurement pic uses the Corvette batwing oil pan. Not sure that one willl work on our conversions. All the other factory pans will be a bit deeper.

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I know I could have put the engine and trans in my car without so much surgery, but I wanted to address some other aspects of the car. Still, I didn't touch the firewall at all in my '72. Here's an early test fit with an unmodified engine bay other than removed motor mounts.




Keep in mind there are a number of other options for the accessory belt setup. The one from the Cadillac CTS-V is close to the block (closer than an F-body) and drops the alternator down close to the oil pan.


The Coyote is certainly larger - DOHC heads will do that for you.

There ya go, Jimbo. As Keith's pics show, radical surgery not required. ;)

Looks almost at home as the 455!

Looks really good!
But why do people cut them up if it fits without doing it? I don't understand. I mean in Keith's case I get it, also Jim S., but otherwise? I always take a minimalist approach to that part. Make the body mods as simple and easy as they can be to get the minimum space needed. Otherwise you start running into all sorts of other problems.

Jim

Of course, the T56 barely fits the MG late tunnel. Keith's mockup has no bellhousing. That is probably the biggest issue, cause I would stick with a 5 speed.

I'm sorry to hear the T56 won't fit. I'd better go fix my car :) One thing to note is that a T5 is going to have a shifter about 3.5" further forward in my experience, which would not improve the shifter location.

Here's the trans about 1.5" below the final location with the bellhousing removed. I forgot, I did have to take part of the firewall out in front of the gas pedal. Oddly enough, this area isn't used on a LHD car, I suspect it's more useful in a RHD setup. I basically mirrored the right side.


I had to add an access panel for the reverse lockout solenoid and rework the very top of the tunnel a bit. You can see the biggest cut in this picture. With my oversize Hurst shifter, I had to open up the hole for the shifter but the stock one in this shot would have fit fine.


Access panel, Hurst shifter

here are a couple of pictures of the LS1 & 4L60E i put in my 67 BGT. I moved the engine much further aft than shown because I wanted to, not because I had to, took lots of measurements and did a bit of studying just to think about what could be done. I didn't use the stock frontend but I did a trial fit, with allthread thru the mounting holes and the front end, the front end would get within .250 inch before touching the oil pan. meaning minimal trimming to the crossmember. plenty of clearance with the inner fenders and hood, tunnel would need minor trimming but perfectly doable






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Thanks, Jay.

Now Keith, I didn't say the T-56 wouldn't fit. It is very snug compared to a T-5 in a late tunnel. Probably won't fit an early tunnel, though.

I really need to do something with my engine before the Omaha Meet. Y'all are killin' me with these pics!

Oh my god. I want to do an LS1 swap sooo badly now! Especially with a miata suspension.

Nice work guys.

The LS4 found in FWD(5.3 and 300HP) uses the small V6 bellhousing. The only problem is the starter is mounted on the transverse FWD transaxle and no provision for block mounting. The Pennock's Fiero forum has some uniqe solutions for the starter. Also the LS2 intake and lifters are used to eliminate the DOD(displacement on demand). The water pump should be changed also as the FWD is offset to the side. There is an adapter to use the big block Chevy water pump(stock or electric aftermarket). The larger throttle body and better flowing intake on the LS2 may boost the power up to 325HP. Edelbrock makes a couple of intakes for the carb guys or for the aftermarket TBI. The heads on this little motor are the same as the LS6 and the sleeves are thick and can be bored out to fit the 5.7 pistons. Plus the junkyard prices are cheap because it hasn't been as popular because of the starter issue. I thought about making a block plate with starter mount and using the 2.2 Chevy S10 bellhousing like they do with the Cadillac 4.9 to convert to RWD clutch. You would have to use a heavy duty clutch because the stock 4cyl/V6 clutch will slip under the power. Spec,Ram and Zoom have those.

Now this engine is the baby you "really need to have" in a small British sports car...... :)


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M.



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I have an LT1 in my car - just not THAT LT1. It does make my mouth water though.

Now someone needs to make an installation kit for rubber bumper Bgts. Motor, trans mount, headers with basic instructions on where to cut.... Hmmmm I might start keeping my eye out for a rolling Bgt shell.