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Rolly77MGB
Richard Rollison
Winnemucca, NV
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03/31/2011 07:07PM

Main British Car:
1977 MGB Roadster will be Ford 5.0 w/ AOD automatic

6" frame stretch??
Posted by: Rolly77MGB
Date: July 02, 2011 02:34PM

Looking at the Ford 5.0/302 installations got me to wondering (which along with thinking is dangerous for me) what would the ramifications of a 6" frame extension? I'm thinking of just between the two adjacent bolt holes that secure the front suspension to the frame. This would provide sufficient room for the engine and transmission with fewer (if any) modifications to the firewall and transmission tunnel. I do not possess the equipment or skills to do this myself so I would have to pay a competent welder/fabricator to do the work. My main concern is handling. Any thoughts on this?


Preform Resources
Dave Craddock
Redford,Michigan
(359 posts)

Registered:
12/20/2008 05:46PM

Main British Car:
72 MGB V6 3.4

Re: 6" frame stretch??
Posted by: Preform Resources
Date: July 02, 2011 03:13PM

Well it would be a nightmare scenario stretching the fenders, hood,reshaping the inner fender panels And making them look good as well.
Dave Craddock


britcars
Phil Ossinger
New Brunswick, Canada
(346 posts)

Registered:
02/02/2009 07:58PM

Main British Car:
1977 MGB Roadster, Rover 3.5 ADVENTURE BEFORE DEMENTIA!

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Re: 6" frame stretch??
Posted by: britcars
Date: July 02, 2011 06:01PM

Have a look at Dale Knapke's TR6 with a 2" stretch.................

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Rolly77MGB
Richard Rollison
Winnemucca, NV
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Registered:
03/31/2011 07:07PM

Main British Car:
1977 MGB Roadster will be Ford 5.0 w/ AOD automatic

Re: 6" frame stretch??
Posted by: Rolly77MGB
Date: July 02, 2011 07:54PM

Thanks for the responses. Dale - my idea was to cut the front sheetmetal aft of the wheel wells and move them forward with the rest of the front end. It appears to me that the slope in the sheetmetal is linear which would make the fenders rather easy to fill in. The hood would be another matter altogether...Phil - nice job Dale is doing and rather quickly at that! I'm just getting started on my project; in fact, I'm still in the tear apart stage.


Bill Young
Bill Young
Kansas City, MO
(1337 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 09:23AM

Main British Car:
'73 MG Midget V6 , '59 MGA I6 2.8 GM, 4.0 Jeep

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Re: 6" frame stretch??
Posted by: Bill Young
Date: July 04, 2011 12:27AM

Rolly, I think you'd be in for much more problems than you'd have just trimming the firewall and crossmember as most Ford V8 swaps do. Stretching the wheel base would throw off the ackerman for one and trying to fix that would most likely result in a lot of bump steer. You'd move from one problem in the handling to another. Stick with a proven combination and you'll know what to expect from the performance and handling. You'd need to keep those bolt holes in the original spacing relationship as that's where the front suspension bolts on to the chassis, so you'd have to lengthen the frame behind that area which would also include lengthing the inner fenders as they form a good part of the front chassis strength.
Since you wouldn't be doing the fabrication yourself I'd think it could get very expensive to do that sort of mod short of building a tube subframe structure to reinforce that area much like Dale did.


djw090
David Witham
Warwick UK
(115 posts)

Registered:
06/12/2008 11:20AM

Main British Car:
MGB 1974 and MG ZT 160 turbo 2005

Re: 6" frame stretch??
Posted by: djw090
Date: July 04, 2011 05:33AM

Fram stretch is what MG should have done for the MGC


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Curtis Jacobson
Portland Oregon
(4577 posts)

Registered:
10/12/2007 02:16AM

Main British Car:
71 MGBGT, Buick 215

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Re: 6" frame stretch??
Posted by: Moderator
Date: July 05, 2011 11:49AM

MGC? Would have been a huge success as designed, except with a small block Ford instead of that heavy six!



ex-tyke
Graham Creswick
Chatham, Ontario, Canada
(1165 posts)

Registered:
10/25/2007 11:17AM

Main British Car:
1976 MGB Ford 302

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Re: 6" frame stretch??
Posted by: ex-tyke
Date: July 05, 2011 12:17PM

Quote:
MGC? Would have been a huge success as designed, except with a small block Ford instead of that heavy six!

I like the way you think, Curtis!


MGBV8
Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN
(4516 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 11:32PM

Main British Car:
1979 MGB Buick 215

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Re: 6" frame stretch??
Posted by: MGBV8
Date: July 09, 2011 08:14AM

Graham,

For once, I must agree. ;)


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