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crashbash
david bash
st. charles
(215 posts)

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01/28/2008 10:53AM

Main British Car:
1979 MGB Rdst V8 project, 1968 MGC GT, 1969 MGB Rd olds 215

Re: Ford style girdle
Posted by: crashbash
Date: September 19, 2011 11:51AM

Art
Is there a possibilty of a girdle for 215 olds with turbo or supercharged v-6 caps? $?


BlownMGB-V8
Jim Blackwood
9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042
(6470 posts)

Registered:
10/23/2007 12:59PM

Main British Car:
1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS

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Re: Ford style girdle
Posted by: BlownMGB-V8
Date: September 19, 2011 12:28PM

Art,

Check with Sean over on the SBB board on V8Buick. He has my 340 template.

JB


roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
(3188 posts)

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04/24/2009 11:02AM

Main British Car:
74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: Ford style girdle/up in the air.
Posted by: roverman
Date: September 19, 2011 04:16PM

Thanks Jim. David, If you can make the caps fit the Olds block, why not ?. As I think through this, not many will be willing/able to cut down stock main caps to flush with pan rails. I'm NOT suggesting this either. Therefore, for the aluminum blocks, I think 7075 T6 plate of .50-.75" thick, shall best serve the purpose. This is thick enough to "relieve" for the caps, and still have adequate strength. No blanchard grinding required and quite good "yield" strength,(52% greater than 4130 ) ! Onward, roverman.



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crashbash
david bash
st. charles
(215 posts)

Registered:
01/28/2008 10:53AM

Main British Car:
1979 MGB Rdst V8 project, 1968 MGC GT, 1969 MGB Rd olds 215

Re: Ford style girdle
Posted by: crashbash
Date: September 22, 2011 11:43AM

Art
Sounds like what I'm looking for. How much $, Installation details? Any oil sump mods? I'm having pan made now with wings and baffles.


Bill Young
Bill Young
Kansas City, MO
(1337 posts)

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10/23/2007 09:23AM

Main British Car:
'73 MG Midget V6 , '59 MGA I6 2.8 GM, 4.0 Jeep

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Re: Ford style girdle
Posted by: Bill Young
Date: September 22, 2011 12:27PM

Art, sounds good. Keep us up to date on your progress, might be something we should consider when we build the "race" motor for the RV8 next year.


roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
(3188 posts)

Registered:
04/24/2009 11:02AM

Main British Car:
74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: Ford style girdle/ .750"
Posted by: roverman
Date: September 22, 2011 01:46PM

Clan, just like this months' Hot Rod mag. Will add .75" to pan rail height. Main studs will need long enough for nut above/below girdle. Will have provision to use modified oem style 5/8" pick-up,ie. mount flange bolted to girdle and tube protruding into block, with precision fit. I don't suspect "side oiler" is neccessary at this time. Material is ordered to build (5). I will post,first article. Onward, roverman.



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Phillip G
Phillip Leonard
Kansas City
(395 posts)

Registered:
02/03/2008 04:12PM

Main British Car:
1992 MG RV8 Rover 3.5

Re: Ford style girdle
Posted by: Phillip G
Date: October 30, 2011 07:34PM

Guys,

SCCA requires the 3.5 Rover block for my GT2 Rover RV8 - specifically, in the General Competition Rules.

The girdle might allow me an extra 1,000 rpm or more and provide for competiveness in the GT2 class. I'm
building a better Rover 3.5 (SCCA legal) engine for the coming year and would greatly benefit from a girdle.

Keep up the good work.

keep them on the track,

phillip g



roverman
Art Gertz
Winchester, CA.
(3188 posts)

Registered:
04/24/2009 11:02AM

Main British Car:
74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L

Re: Ford style girdle,(deep "Y")
Posted by: roverman
Date: October 31, 2011 11:47AM

Phillip, Maybe "Mike" can chime in here, I thought BL Motorsports "had" a 3.5L block with cross bolted mains ? Are you forbade x bolted mains ? I saw "rally" blocks at the factory, in 83". They were "filled" for x main potential. Got girdle ? I find no logic for using a single nut, on top of a sheet metal pan, to retain the girdle.My design will have a flush nut at pan surface, to retain girdle,use "Sealtite" for hassle-free sealing and teardown and another nut on top of pan. Good Luck, roverman.



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