WedgeWorks1 Mike Perkins Ellicott City, Maryland (460 posts) Registered: 07/06/2008 08:07AM Main British Car: 1980 Triumph TR8 3.5 Litre Rover V8 |
Re: 4.020-inch Bore
Well just so everyone knows this is truely experimental and the goal is, and I know every one is looking at stroke and bore to make the biggest monster possible, but the goal is rpms so we are going over-square like the small japanese engines to build power in the strotosphere! The welding is to get more stud gripping depth/area, o-ring composite head gaskets, and with the heads, roller cam, roller rockers and an exhaust of 1-3/4 4 to 1 headers it should rev like crazy and have a very impressive power/torque band. I think if the thing holds up in high rpms then a really long stroke crank should not be an issue. This is an all around engine, drag, autocross & track engine. Right now it is almost assembled but not till late January will it possibly get completed and chucked on the dyno.
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hoffbug Tony Hoffer Minnesota (323 posts) Registered: 10/15/2007 05:25PM Main British Car: Olds 215 EFI |
Re: 4.020-inch Bore
Was talkin to my machinist friend that I race with a couple times a year.. and he said to have a look at these..
[www.dartonsleeves.com] [www.dartonsleeves.com] Darton Modular Integrated Deck (MID). He says this all started with the B-18 Hondas |
NixVegaGT Nicolas Wiederhold Minneapolis, MN (659 posts) Registered: 10/16/2007 05:30AM Main British Car: '73 Vega GT 4.9L Rover/Buick Stroker |
Re: 4.020-inch Bore
Quote: Yeah, Totally. The bigger engine thing is just my hang up. LOL. Ya know what would be cool would be a Rover 289. 4" bore x 2.8" stroke. Like an AAR type o thing. That would rock. |
Re: 4.020-inch Bore
Well, if you had a pair of OHC cylinder heads and needed to modify the block to accommodate the head bolts, this might be one way to get that done.
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roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
Re: 4.020-inch Bore
Yea,Yea,hint-hint. Set the hook in Granpa. "If you had say...a pair of 907 heads, mite-as-well go monster bore rite? An-an then it would clear Nic's "Tactor Pull" crank rite. Yea-thats-it, a 401",Rotus Brossum Gone Wild ! I doan tink-so, roverman.
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NixVegaGT Nicolas Wiederhold Minneapolis, MN (659 posts) Registered: 10/16/2007 05:30AM Main British Car: '73 Vega GT 4.9L Rover/Buick Stroker |
Re: 4.020-inch Bore
Quote: LOL! It's WORKING!!! You beat me to it! I think the 907 head would work great as a deck girdle, right?! The other benefit is the lack of cam stress on the block. You are on to something there, Art. Incidently, how much do those heads weigh? A 380 lbs. DOHC 401 V8 would be pretty bitchin'. |
NixVegaGT Nicolas Wiederhold Minneapolis, MN (659 posts) Registered: 10/16/2007 05:30AM Main British Car: '73 Vega GT 4.9L Rover/Buick Stroker |
Re: 4.020-inch Bore
I just realized I never asked you about the source for the 4" liners, Mike.
say: "Fighting urge to do this..." |
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WedgeWorks1 Mike Perkins Ellicott City, Maryland (460 posts) Registered: 07/06/2008 08:07AM Main British Car: 1980 Triumph TR8 3.5 Litre Rover V8 |
Re: 4.020-inch Bore
Nix-If I tell you then I would have to take away all of your toys......I dont think you want me to do that.....do you? If this thing works I might let more out of the bag. I dont car what other British car owners think of this group......in my book you'all/we are ok!
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roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
Re: 4.020-inch Bore
Nic, try to remain...calm% "It's too much stroke when it becomes,un-gainly", ie. loss of control-Nic. Be-strong,not-"....", don't give in to the Dark-Side, Luke-Nic-whomever. BTW... their Waay to damn heavy for a hydrogen filled Vega! roverman.
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BlownMGB-V8 Jim Blackwood 9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042 (6470 posts) Registered: 10/23/2007 12:59PM Main British Car: 1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS |
Re: 4.020-inch Bore
Art, with the cam gone I'd be willing to bet you could go to at LEAST a 4" stroke. (402+?) And those big bores would let you completely unshroud the valves...
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roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
Re: 4.020-inch Bore
Yea...Thatz graaaaaaaaate,bigger is alwaaz better-rite? Let's remind ourselves, 907 heads will only flow 305 cfm.@ .45 lift in a 3.75 bore, waite-dammit, now I'm being Devil's advocate! roverman.
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WedgeWorks1 Mike Perkins Ellicott City, Maryland (460 posts) Registered: 07/06/2008 08:07AM Main British Car: 1980 Triumph TR8 3.5 Litre Rover V8 |
Re: 4.020-inch Bore
Nix-You are too much! I LUV IT!
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roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
Re: 4.020-inch Bore
Nic ol' chum, I tried to tell ya, "overstrokin" would only lead to trouble. Now you you get to take your "lumps" and no toys ! Best you can hope for, is get Superman to squeezum feryea. roverman.
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NixVegaGT Nicolas Wiederhold Minneapolis, MN (659 posts) Registered: 10/16/2007 05:30AM Main British Car: '73 Vega GT 4.9L Rover/Buick Stroker |
Re: 4.020-inch Bore
Quote: Do we have a rep or something? |
WedgeWorks1 Mike Perkins Ellicott City, Maryland (460 posts) Registered: 07/06/2008 08:07AM Main British Car: 1980 Triumph TR8 3.5 Litre Rover V8 |
Re: 4.020-inch Bore
Rep......well let’s say if someone wants to take a 1 of 50 Austin Healey 100s and put an LS1 V8 in it well any forum full of fuddie-duddies would stick their nose up, gasp for air and mumble insults under their breath with a demeaning closing statement and then send them over to the dark side....aka the British V8 forum. It has happened before and will happen again. It is a vicious cycle!
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BlownMGB-V8 Jim Blackwood 9406 Gunpowder Rd., Florence, KY 41042 (6470 posts) Registered: 10/23/2007 12:59PM Main British Car: 1971 MGB Blown,Injected,Intercooled Buick 340/AA80E/JagIRS |
Re: 4.020-inch Bore
And Rick wonders why I haven't signed on with Namburger. No secret. Hey Art, lessee with that 2 hp per cfm figger and the 402 cubes you could make..... um....lessee...figger, figger, figger... Yep, that's it! Fourty Eight Hundred and Eighty Horsepower!!!!
Betcha that'd make yer buggy roll. Jim |
roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
Re: 4.020-inch Bore
For the rekerd, Mr. Gunpowder Pantz, Increase of (1) cfm.@ 28", as measured in an "Intake Port", on gasolene per 8 cylinderz does approximate (2) hp. Mr. Vizard, can youn help me here? roverman.
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roverman Art Gertz Winchester, CA. (3188 posts) Registered: 04/24/2009 11:02AM Main British Car: 74' Jensen Healy, 79 Huff. GT 1, 74 MGB Lotus 907,2L |
Re: 4.020-inch Bore
Mike, I hear Ya. I got the same, "MUY CACA" from the Jensen Healy Club and the 1st gen "Celica" club about "destroying" the resale value of a $2,200 and a $400. car. I haven't solicited anyone to fund my semi-baked scheems, therfore and forthwith, I shall build any damned way I want ! These self-appointed "judges" act like it's, "THEIR" car !! I'ts enough to "Up-set The Good Humor Man", roverman.
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